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dongee
09-11-2008, 05:36 PM
KikiL

Thanks for posting the photo of Vic Alexander. As active as he was back in the old days you son't see a lot of his pictures.

regards

friend hap

Chuck1052
09-11-2008, 09:57 PM
Hap- I hope that you are doing well. In regards to George Godfrey and Vic Alexander, they were in a group of black heavyweights who were active in Southern California during the late 1920s, which also included Mack House, Long Tom Hawkins and Neil Clisby. I don't think that Godfrey, Alexander, Hawkins, House, Clisby, Young Jack Thompson and Baby Joe Gans are given enough credit for giving black fighters a huge boost in Southern California after some years in the doltrums, especially after the era of Jack Johnson.

- Chuck Johnston

kikibalt
09-12-2008, 08:31 AM
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Joe Rivers -AKA- Jose Ybarra

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dongee
09-12-2008, 05:40 PM
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Chuck and fellow posters:

I'm doing as well as any oldster, and perhaps a bit better than some not-so-lucky contemporaries. The aging process may dull most of our human faculties but I've been blessed with hardy genes, despite my early imbibing ways at several fight mob watering holes in the old hometown, L.A.

I'm back to join you fellas in reminiscing and hope to have something of some worth to comment on henceforth. For the record, if anyone cares, the best fighter I ever saw live was Ray Robinson, who was really a composite figure, part choreographer, part aerobics master, a boxing genius and instinctive athlete with perfect balance in any position, and a deadly puncher.

The best of all Mexican fighters when he cared enough to fill the role was Manuel Ortiz. The purest Mexican stylist-boxing master was Joe Conde, even if I only saw him in workouts. At his best he was classy enough to outpoint Henry Armstrong in Mexico City.

The top "lemonade maker" among headlilners had to be Lauro Salas. You know the old saying: "When life hands you lemons, make lemonade". With the style the Lord gave him, Lauro did the best he could. Like the bumble bee, that is not supposed to be able to fly......with his ring style, he wasn't meant to win a world title, but he did.

The most popular Mexican fighters from my time in a three-way tie were Bert Colima, Baby Arizmendi and Enrique Bolanos. The sturdiest Mexican gladiator of all time had to be Julio Cesar Jimenez, a journeyman lightweight, hard as nails, a pared-down Jake LaMotta, impossible to floor.

The biggest waste of natural talent went to little-known Sandy Garrison Casanova, California's first lightheavyweight champion. He could punch, he could box, but he was a lesser light in the same stable with star Bert Colima and he disdained training routines.

If you are still with me: Thanks for the courtesy. And please remember this is all just an opinion.

hap navarro

Boxscribe
09-12-2008, 05:51 PM
Hap, it's great to see you back on the board. I am presently researching the careers of the Hogue twins from Jacumba and was hoping you may have some insight/opinion on the two.

I have plenty of photos (though more couldn't hurt), scrapbooks and family rememberences. If you have anything you would care to offer up from your own time on the coast during the 40s and 50s it would be most appreciated.

dongee
09-12-2008, 06:09 PM
Boxscribe:

That is some subject you have zeroed in on----I call my story on them "The Incomparable Hogue Twins", written 20 years ago and still awaiting inclusion in my phantom book "Witness to Mayhem".

I have always wanted to do their boxing story, researched it and even had a personal note to add because one of their nephews once boxed for me back in the 1950s.

For pathos and sheer waste of magnificent raw talent their story should be told as a tribute more than as a narrative. I saw them from their amateur days and once worked on a daily newspaper with another of their nephews

It's kind of a dilemma as to what to do in this case....don't you agree?

regards

hap navarro

Boxscribe
09-12-2008, 09:57 PM
Boxscribe:

That is some subject you have zeroed in on----I call my story on them "The Incomparable Hogue Twins", written 20 years ago and still awaiting inclusion in my phantom book "Witness to Mayhem".

I have always wanted to do their boxing story, researched it and even had a personal note to add because one of their nephews once boxed for me back in the 1950s.

For pathos and sheer waste of magnificent raw talent their story should be told as a tribute more than as a narrative. I saw them from their amateur days and once worked on a daily newspaper with another of their nephews

It's kind of a dilemma as to what to do in this case....don't you agree?

regards

hap navarro

Hap, you are dead right about the twins. What a waste of potential. They appeared to have everything going for them, good-looking guys, crowd-pleasing styles, a true absence of fear and a great fan base.

The seemed to blaze accross southern Cal boxing like a pair of meteors before finally coming down to earth with a bump. The story with the twins is a real tragedy I feel like crying for them.

The nephew you had fight was probably Bob Dye.

I will PM you later.

kikibalt
09-13-2008, 12:16 PM
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Joe Louis vs Jack Roper...1939

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kikibalt
09-13-2008, 02:16 PM
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LAS VEGAS - SEPTEMBER 12: Steve DeAngelis of the Nevada State Athletic Commission (C) stands between boxers Joel Casamayor (L) of Cuba and Juan Manuel Marquez of Mexico during their official weigh-in at the MGM Grand Garden Arena September 12, 2008 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The fighters will meet in a 12-round fight on September 13. (Photo by Ethan Miller/Getty Images)

kikibalt
09-15-2008, 10:18 PM
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Andy Walker

kikibalt
09-15-2008, 10:20 PM
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Oscar De La Hoya vs Jimmy Bredahl

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kikibalt
09-17-2008, 01:03 PM
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Archie Moore at Sugar Ray Robinson's funeral

kikibalt
09-23-2008, 12:12 PM
Photo courtesy of Hap Navarro

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Max Baer and his original manager, Hamilton Lorimer (who also happened to be his early employer) about to board their fancy vintage auto, parked in front of Dempsey's old Manhattan Gym on Spring street, in L.A. circa 1930.

kikibalt
09-23-2008, 12:16 PM
Photo courtesy of Hap Navarro

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The brothers Baer, clowning in Morrie Cohan's (Pasadena) hotel room in 1935.

kikibalt
09-23-2008, 12:18 PM
Photo courtesy of Hap Navarro

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Art Aragon

kikibalt
09-23-2008, 12:20 PM
Photos courtesy of Hap Navarro

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A rarely seen photo of Manuel Ortiz's kid brother, Trini Ortiz, circa 1943.
The boy only had a few bouts, nothing extraordinary.

kikibalt
09-25-2008, 12:36 PM
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Speedy Dado Vintage Original Charcoal Drawing by Hal Bruntish
Signed & Date 1927 by Dado & Bruntish

kikibalt
09-25-2008, 01:53 PM
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John Thomas

kikibalt
09-25-2008, 06:01 PM
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Miguel Canto v Facomron Vibonchai
November 20, 1978

dongee
09-26-2008, 05:39 PM
A few words about Gentlemman John Thomas, if you please.

There may never be another like him to come our way. He was that good, plus a fine human being in and out of the ring. John was managed by Bert Lewis, owner of a string of barber schools on the west coast, and he was schooled and trained by one of the better teachers of the time, George Tolson, along with Bobby Yeager and Georgie Mendoza.

A look at John's pro record shows that he lost a total of seven bouts, all of them to top-flight contenders and near champions. His fine win streak at the start of his career ended when he engaged in a masterful boxing showdown with the prestigious stylist, Willie Joyce.

But it was destiny's choice to have Thomas competing for parochial pride in the same sphere, California, with Enrique Bolanos. In one of the many dlassic series that have occurred in L.A. boxing, Thomas and Bolanos met twice. Their first match, long awaited by partisan fans, drew a gross gate of $70,000 outdoors. it was a toss up fight until Bolanos' superior punching power turned the tide. Never one to hand around as an also-ran. Thomas retired after losing to Bolanos in an Olympic rematch that also did well at the box office.

It was only natural that John would gravitate to the ranks of popular referees. His style in the ring as a third man was unmatched by any of his older, more corpulent colleagues. John had followed an older brother, Clarence, as an aspiring boxer.

hap navarro

kikibalt
09-27-2008, 07:22 PM
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Manuel "Pulgarcito" Ramos

kikibalt
09-28-2008, 01:09 AM
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Shane Mosley (L) exchanges punches with Ricardo Mayorga during the
second round of their Junior Middleweight bout in Carson, California,
September 27, 2008. REUTERS/Danny Moloshok (UNITED STATES)

kikibalt
09-28-2008, 01:14 AM
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Shane Mosley (L) follows through on a punch to the face of Ricardo
Mayorga during the eighth round of their junior middleweight
boxing bout in Carson, California, September 27, 2008.
REUTERS/Danny Moloshok (UNITED STATES)

kikibalt
11-22-2008, 07:41 AM
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kikibalt
11-30-2008, 06:32 PM
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kikibalt
12-05-2008, 09:54 AM
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kikibalt
01-18-2009, 06:30 AM
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Ricardo "Pajarito" Moreno training at the Alexandria Hotel

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kikibalt
01-18-2009, 06:32 AM
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Hogan "Kid" Bassey, training

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kikibalt
01-18-2009, 06:33 AM
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The weigh-in
Hogan "Kid" Bassey vs Ricardo "Pajarito" Moreno

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kikibalt
01-18-2009, 06:35 AM
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The Fight
Hogan "Kid" Bassey vs Ricardo "Pajarito" Moreno

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kikibalt
01-18-2009, 06:36 AM
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The End
Hogan "Kid" Bassey vs Ricardo "Pajarito" Moreno

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kikibalt
01-18-2009, 06:38 AM
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The winner, Hogan "Kid" Bassey

kikibalt
01-30-2009, 07:50 PM
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In the 1940's-50's "Senator" Johnny Forbes had a good size stable of boxers which included
GIL cadilli, Carlos Chavez, Nick Diaz, Keeny Teran and Vince Delgado, et' al'.

Luke Langello was always to be seen at the gyms.

kikibalt
01-30-2009, 08:02 PM
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kikibalt
01-30-2009, 08:27 PM
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Tobey Vigil fought all the top guy on the West Coast in his boxing
career, Archie Grant, Gene "Spider Mock" Jensen, Eddie Marcus,
Georgie Latka, Baby Arizmendi, Ray Lunny, Petey Scalzo and John Thomas.
et' al'

kikibalt
02-09-2009, 02:39 PM
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At the Jr's with Johnnie Flores refereeing

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kikibalt
02-09-2009, 02:46 PM
The Jr's

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kikibalt
02-18-2009, 09:03 AM
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kikibalt
02-18-2009, 09:12 AM
1968 L.A. Golden Gloves Champs (not '70 "Diamond Belt" as listed)

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Look to the top row, first two boxers on the left, Jimmy Robertson & Armando Muniz, in their teens.

Robertson came up at the Olympic, as an amateur, often featured in Aileen Eaton's "Youth Development Program". After traveling to the Golden Gloves Nat'ls in St. Louis with the above team, Jimmy turned pro and would become the first man to challenege newly crowned Lightweight Champ, Roberto Duran, for the title (1972). A major attraction at the Olympic Auditorium where he battled L.A. legends Ruben Navarro, Rodolfo "El Gato" Gonzalez and many more.

Our friend, Armando Muniz? No stranger to us. His history is written thruout the text of this great boxing forum.

kikibalt
02-18-2009, 10:43 AM
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kikibalt
02-21-2009, 05:01 PM
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kikibalt
02-25-2009, 11:24 AM
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kikibalt
02-25-2009, 11:27 AM
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gregbeyer
02-25-2009, 02:30 PM
wow....that ramos-rojas program brings back memories.

two harbor area boys and ex-stable mates. i was there with three of my friends that nite and raul was landing a sneaky right hand counter on mando early but then mando started sticking rojas with that great long jab of his. a 3/4 hook uppercut left by mando sent raul into a summer sault and that was it.

rauls last fight.

after, we all met at joeys billiards in carson where heavyweight joey orbillo was visibly upset that his two homeboys had fought each other.

great card that nite. rick ferris lead off, mando muniz flattened a guy in the first and old friend frankie crawford ko'd a mexican opponent a split second after the bell ending the tenth sending the latino crowd in an ill tempered frenzy. i have never forgotten the sight of this kid on his back having to be revived while the score cards were being read or frankies reaction to them which was basicaly thumbing his nose. frankie was a first class character.

greg

kikibalt
02-27-2009, 07:14 PM
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Mando Muniz vs Thurman Durden

kikibalt
02-28-2009, 10:01 PM
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Danny "Little Red" and Bonnie Lopez, Bobby Chacon and his caregiver, Rosie

kikibalt
03-01-2009, 11:05 AM
Women Behind The Boxer Honoree, Yokanda Muniz

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Yolanda and husband Mando Muniz

Mando Muniz vs Zovek Barajas

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kikibalt
03-01-2009, 06:32 PM
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Don Fraser and friend

kikibalt
03-01-2009, 06:35 PM
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Charlie Powell

kikibalt
03-02-2009, 09:19 PM
"Women Behind The Boxer Award"

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The couple that made everything happen last Saturday, Larry & Elsa Montalvo... :bow: :bow:

kikibalt
03-03-2009, 12:01 AM
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Art "Golden Boy" Aragon vs Chuck Davey

kikibalt
03-03-2009, 09:12 AM
Raul Rojas vs Yoshiaki Numata

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kikibalt
03-03-2009, 10:10 AM
Carmen Basilio vs Don Jordan

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kikibalt
03-03-2009, 10:19 AM
Art "Golden Boy" Aragon vs Carmen Basilio

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kikibalt
03-04-2009, 09:41 PM
Women Behind The Boxer Award, Elise Syers

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Elise Syers with husband Allen Syers.
The Syers's were unable to attend the luncheon due to Allen going through chemo.

kikibalt
03-06-2009, 11:31 AM
J.C.Chavez vs R. Sandoval, Jamie Garza vs Bobby Berna & Frankie Garcia vs The Jeep

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSXVLVgD2Y8

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kikibalt
03-06-2009, 09:43 PM
Frankie Duarte vs Albert Davila

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrj7lgZAND8

kikibalt
03-24-2009, 10:09 PM
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Don Fraser, Elsa & Larry Montalvo
"Golden State Boxers' Association" meeting
3-24-09

kikibalt
03-25-2009, 09:01 AM
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Don Fraser in disguise
3-24-09

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kikibalt
03-25-2009, 09:44 AM
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The gang at the "Golden State Boxers' Association" meeting
3-24-09

kikibalt
03-26-2009, 01:32 PM
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Archie Moore & Jimmy Carter

kikibalt
03-29-2009, 09:45 PM
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Jimmy Doyle

kikibalt
04-13-2009, 11:27 PM
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Felipe Torres

kikibalt
04-14-2009, 09:12 AM
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Joe Sayatovich

kikibalt
04-15-2009, 03:50 AM
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kikibalt
04-15-2009, 09:22 AM
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Marty Denkin

kikibalt
04-15-2009, 10:17 AM
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Tony Longoria with Pat O'Grady

kikibalt
04-15-2009, 03:11 PM
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kikibalt
04-15-2009, 09:26 PM
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kikibalt
04-15-2009, 10:02 PM
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kikibalt
04-16-2009, 01:55 PM
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Henry "Pappy" Gault

I was at the Hollywood Legion (1955) when Keeny Teran ko Pappy, don't remember the round,
but it was early in the fight.

kikibalt
04-16-2009, 09:11 PM
Mando Ramos 'ol foe

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kikibalt
04-29-2009, 02:45 PM
Carlos Palomino vs Hedgemon Lewis


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kikibalt
05-01-2009, 02:48 PM
Rodolfo "Gato" Gonzalez vs Guts Ishimatus II

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CPXozX7u2U

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kikibalt
05-03-2009, 08:04 AM
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kikibalt
05-08-2009, 10:30 PM
Bobby Chacon vs Bazook Limon IIII

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kikibalt
05-14-2009, 01:12 PM
Big Robert 'Jeep' Swenson vs Frankie Garcia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLozSYy7SxQ
Olympic. Aud....6-15-1988

kikibalt
05-15-2009, 10:42 AM
Big Robert 'Jeep' Swenson vs Frankie Garcia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLozSYy7SxQ
Olympic. Aud....6-15-1983

Btw, thats Beto Maldonado working with the Jeep

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A young 20 year old Julio Cesar Chavez vs Romero Sandoval.

This fight was on the same card as the Jeep/Garcia fight above, I had the year wrong on the above post, it was 1983 and not 1988.

kikibalt
06-09-2009, 10:40 AM
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kikibalt
06-09-2009, 10:49 AM
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kikibalt
06-09-2009, 11:12 AM
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kikibalt
06-09-2009, 01:02 PM
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dongee
06-09-2009, 02:28 PM
'
Those were the giood old days, Frank, when you could get the latest boxing news in capsule form for only a dime or a quarter. The Main Event was a welcome addition to the already established Knockout and Referee. Leonard Sacks, who had managed some of Jack Dempsey's enterprises was announced as owner-publisher of the new sheet. Fidel La Barba, who was writing for the Santa Monica OUtlook at the time, collaborated with Sacks.

After a fine beginning the sheet was taken over by Texas welterweight Artie Dorrell, just before ceasing publication. The Main Event was also the first boxing magazine in California to be printed entirely in offset, which was a fairly new process at the time.

hap navarro

kikibalt
06-09-2009, 04:25 PM
'
Those were the giood old days, Frank, when you could get the latest boxing news in capsule form for only a dime or a quarter. The Main Event was a welcome addition to the already established Knockout and Referee. Leonard Sacks, who had managed some of Jack Dempsey's enterprises was announced as owner-publisher of the new sheet. Fidel La Barba, who was writing for the Santa Monica OUtlook at the time, collaborated with Sacks.

After a fine beginning the sheet was taken over by Texas welterweight Artie Dorrell, just before ceasing publication. The Main Event was also the first boxing magazine in California to be printed entirely in offset, which was a fairly new process at the time.

hap navarro

Yes, Hap, it was a great time to be alive and old enough to go to the fights just about each week, and those magazine/programs? great to read, I still have a few of them that I take out and read every now and then.
Yes, Hap, those were the good old days.

kikibalt
06-09-2009, 04:33 PM
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kikibalt
06-09-2009, 07:06 PM
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kikibalt
06-09-2009, 07:20 PM
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kikibalt
06-09-2009, 08:07 PM
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kikibalt
06-10-2009, 09:42 AM
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kikibalt
06-10-2009, 01:49 PM
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kikibalt
06-10-2009, 07:31 PM
Tough Tijuana!
June 10, 2009 by Felipe Leon

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CREA Gym

In my travels as a boxing journalist, I have visited my fair share of gyms. From the Wild Card gym before it was THE Wild Card gym to white collar training facilities in San Diego to seedy Barrio Logan holes in the wall. But no matter where these north of the border schools of hard knocks are located or what equipment they have, they are worlds away from the run down establishments their south of the border brethren like to call gimnasios.

If a San Diego white collar gym is a two story, three bedroom house, then a TJ gym is a cardboard shack.

Although there is one “white collar” gym in Tijuana which is located in the modern Sports World gym, no fighter of consequence has ever come out of there despite having former journeyman fighter “Zero” Sanchez as the man in charge.

I guess you can’t turn Tijuana bankers into world contenders.

The next best equipped gyms in Tijuana are the ones funded by the Municipal Institute for Sports which is helmed by former three time world champion Erik Morales.

The most well known is located next to the Municipal Auditorium and is inhabited by an array of amateur stars as well as professional fighters such as current IBF featherweight champion Cristobal “Lacandon” Cruz. The gym boasts a regulation size ring and rows of double end and heavy bags. Same thing can be said for the gym run by former bantamweight champion Raul “Jibaro” Perez who among the top amateurs who train there, you can also find former two time Jr. middleweight champion Alejandro “Terra” Garcia and former straw weight champ Roberto “Mako” Leyva. This gym also has a normal sized ring and plenty of heavy bags among others.

You might be asking why I keep bringing up the fact that both of these gyms have “regulation” or “normal” sized rings. It’s because as far as I have witnessed, these are the only two that do.

The CREA gym where many world champions have gone thru its doors such as the living legend himself Julio Cesar Chavez Sr, the afore mentioned Raul “Jibaro” Perez, Humberto “Zorrita” Soto, Jose Luis “Temible” Castillo and Jorge “Travieso” Arce has no such thing. Other fighters who have trained or train there are Antonio DeMarco, JC Chavez Jr and his brother Omar as well as the cream of the Tijuana’s crop of up and comers, in my humble opinion, all under the watchful eye of Romulo Quirarte and his two sons.

This gym has no regulation ring but two make shift areas that I would be hard pressed to even call a ring. Instead of a bouncy canvas you have what might have been the floor of a high school gym still marked with the Greco Roman wrestling boundaries.

The double end bags as well as the rest of the equipment is held together by the ever resilient duct tape that needs to be reapplied every evening before the doors are locked with a heavy lock.

This is Tijuana after all.

No fans are visible or felt anywhere in the gym and since the majority of the warriors inside are training to make weight for an upcoming bout, all the windows and doors are kept tightly shut. The temperature surely reaches 110 degrees during the summer.

Don’t get me started on the restrooms.

The Azteca Gym located in the Colonia Independencia wished it was as nice as the CREA. Located in one of the oldest neighborhoods of Tijuana, visitors need to go down a series of steps to enter the roughly double car garage sized room. The “ring” sits squarely in the middle of the room and since I didn’t stay long in fear of encountering a rat the size of my seven lbs. Chihuahua, didn’t notice much equipment. WBC #3 ranked featherweight Juan Carlos Burgos, and jr. welterweight Pavel Miranda among others train there. Three time welterweight champion Antonio Margarito also shakes down at the Azteca before traveling to Los Angeles for camp.

Even though many current, former and retired champions have come out of Tijuana and trained in these conditions, I often wonder what kind of fighters they would be if they trained in a high class facility such as the one Ivan Drago in “Rocky IV” trained in.

Will they still be as hungry? Will they still be as tough?

Who knows?

What I do know is that probably they wouldn’t be as happy since every time I visit one of these gyms, every fighter greets me with a smile as they continue to hit each other or the bag in front of them.

You can tell they wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.

kikibalt
06-10-2009, 07:53 PM
Man’s Best Friend!
May 13, 2009 by Felipe Leon

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In the time that I have been running around in boxing circles, I have met my fair share of fighters. From “opponents” to up and coming prospects, to retired legends of old to elite boxers to world champions.

I can say with certainty that none of them are more cordial and generous than the man they call “Perro”, up and coming super welterweight Alfredo Angulo.

The first time I met Angulo, It was nearly a year ago at the place where every man wished they could go but many never will, the Playboy Mansion.

ESPN’s Wednesday Night Fights broadcast the return of Julio Diaz to the ring after being demolished at the end of 2007 by Juan Diaz. This time, Diaz easily defeated little known David Torres in the main event.

To reach the Playboy Mansion, all press and invitees needed to meet at a Beverly Hills hotel and then be shuttled to the house that Hef built. There I met for the first time the former Olympian from Mexico.

We broke the ice by talking about mutual friends from Tijuana and then moved on to telling jokes. Good thing Angulo can throw an excellent left hook because he is no threat for George Lopez. He is possibly the worst joke teller in the history of comedy and to refresh your memory, comedy goes back to the days of the greek philosophers.

Once at the Mansion, we went our separate ways, I to cover the fights and he to attend to the many fans who wanted to take their photo with the relentless puncher. Near the end of the night we bumped into each other again and he inquired what I was going to do with the rest of my night. Since I was in the mood to paint the town red (which is not often for those who know me) he graciously invited me to continue the night with him and the group which he had made plans with.

This is where things get interesting.

In the pursuit of keeping my nose where it is instead of another side of my head which would surely happen if I disclosed who else was part of the party, all I am going to reveal is that it was another L.A. based fighter, his manager and trainer, a HBO executive and his friend and yours truly.

By this time, the other unnamed fighter was way on his way to being in layman terms, ripped, along with the rest of his corner while Angulo had not touched a drop of alcohol and wouldn’t the rest of the night while I hadn’t enjoyed a mixed drink since I tend not to while I cover a fight card.

We made our way to a Hollywood club that is owned by a well known young actor and were welcomed as VIP and treated as such for the rest of the night.

As the well oiled fighter and his crew continued to enjoy themselves for the rest of the night with drinks, dancing and dames, “Perro” and I enjoyed the scenery while Angulo drank juice and I the same-except mine had an extra “kick”.

As we stumbled out of the establishment at 2 am, it suddenly occurred to me that I had to drive back to San Diego that night. As I shared this with the group, it took about a tenth of a nanosecond for Angulo to offer his humble abode to me, a person he had just met a mere 2-3 pineapple juices ago.

I hesitated to accept as I deliberated whether I would be breaking any writer-fighter ethical codes but I quickly imagined my drive back without any sleep so I rapidly accepted.

Before we bedded down for the night, we enjoyed that time honored tradition of party people everywhere: the late night Mexican food run.

As we devoured a dinner of too much salsa coupled with way too much cheese, we spoke of recently passed fights and upcoming ones that we were looking forward too.

Once at his one room apartment located behind a regular sized house in a suburb of Los Angeles, I went to use the restroom.

When I exited, Angulo was preparing a bedding on the floor that I was sure was for me since I knew that Angulo, ever the gym rat, was surely going to train the next day whose daybreak was a mere couple of hours away.

Much to my surprise, he proceeded to lay down on the floor himself among the scattered boxing equipment and tennis shoes as he offered me the ample bed pushed against a wall.

I immediately refused but when a professional fighter who at that time was riding a nine KO streak and has scored two more since then insists, you comply.

So I slept on the bed.

Four hours later my alarm went off and I began my short two hour trek back to San Diego.

The whole time I spent with Angulo, he made me feel like we had known each other for years and never did he put up the wall that many fighters do when they know that they are dealing with a member of the press.

Since then, I have bumped into Angulo several times and been around him when he has dealt with other boxing scribes and he is as genuine with them as he was with me.

When he offered his bed to me, I knew that I was dealing with a man that although humble in his beginnings had the wealth of an education that was taught to him by his beloved mother.

On May 30th, “Perro” Angulo will be taking on his biggest challenge to date when he faces former two time welterweight champion Kermit Cintron in Florida. Rest assured that I will be cheering for Angulo, journalist ethics be damned.

Dan1213
06-10-2009, 07:54 PM
German Ohm Profile. He had great potential.

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kikibalt
06-10-2009, 09:00 PM
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06-10-2009, 09:01 PM
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kikibalt
06-10-2009, 09:02 PM
German Ohm Profile. He had great potential.

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Can't open it......:mad:

Dan1213
06-11-2009, 07:36 AM
Can't open it......:mad:

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German Ohm
By Dan Cuoco

German Ohm was born of German ancestry on May 28, 1936 in Mexico City, Mexico. He was raised in Ciudad Lerado. Leredo is a little town in La Laguna where there are thousands of fig trees. Ohm spent his early youth as a fig planter.

German launched his pro career at age 18 in Gomez Palacio, Mexico on November 11, 1954 losing a four round decision to Chato Campos. Undaunted, German knocked out Jesus Alvarado in Lerdo, Mexico six days later and returned to Gomez Palacio December 9th to knockout Vicente Ramirez in the third round.

Ohm started his 1955 campaign on a sour note by fighting Chino Flores to a four round draw and losing a six round decision to Pinky Ruiz. Even though he hadn’t won either fight he was feeling more comfortable in the ring and won his next five fights, four by kayo, including a six round knockout over Pinky Ruiz in a rematch. Two of his kayos took place in Mexico City where he thrilled hard core fight fans with his exciting style. They saw in German the ingredients that make a fighter sensational - a knockout punch in either hand. It was evident even then that German possessed a devastating left hook and a bone crushing right hand.

German suffered a setback when Luis Gutierrez stopped him in the fourth round of his third fight in Mexico City. Again undaunted, German returned to the ring wars 13 days later and closed out the year with seven consecutive wins, five by knockout. Among his victims were two of Mexico’s toughest second tier bantams Americo Rivera and Angel Iglesias.

Mexico City veteran Mike Cruz was German’s first big test in 1956. He had been in with some of Mexico’s best bantams and had only been stopped twice. And the two fighters to stop him were two of the hottest prospects in Mexico at the time - Ricardo (Pajarito) Moreno and Carlos Cardoso. Although he was stopped by both, Moreno (round 6) and Cardoso (round 5), he extended both of them before succumbing to their numbing power. German wanted to show that he too belonged with the elite and made a good case for himself by knocking out Cruz in the third round. Two more victories followed and on March 22, 1956 German was paired with another fast rising youngster named Jose Becerra. The 19 year-old Becerra had turned professional a year before German and entered the ring with a record of 30-2-1, with 17 kayos. The 19 year-old German was a month younger with a record of 17-3-1, with 13 kayos. Ohm was well ahead on points when the fight was stopped due to severe cuts. Even though he lost, German came out of the fight more determined then ever. He knew he was beating one of Mexico’s best bantams and that the only reason he lost was because of cuts. He now knew he belonged.

A month after the Becerra fight, Ohm was back in the ring and won going away against the veteran Tibico Torres. He followed that victory with three consecutive knockouts over Martin Vasquez, Joe Chamacho and Jorge Gabino.

German was now ready to step up in competition again and on June 30th he won a lopsided decision over crafty veteran Jorge Herrera. His next fight was against another Mexican bantam prospect 18-year old Raul Leanos. Raul had turned pro at age 16 and possessed a record of 20-2-1, with 6 knockouts. His only two losses were by close decision. German journeyed to Leanos’ hometown and destroyed him in two rounds. On July 28th he returned to Mexico City and knocked out tough veteran Babe Rivera in the second round. In and around the La Laguna, Mexico provinces he was now being called the Mexican Teuton. Ohm returned to Mexico City on August 18th to face Arturo (Baby) Ruiz. Ruiz was coming off impressive victories over Jose Luis Mora and Chucho Tello. He proved to be no competition for German and was kayoed in the first round.

German’s winning streak caught the eyes of the editors of “The Ring.” He entered the ratings at number ten on September 21, 1956. The only bantams in Mexico ahead of him now were number one ranked Raul Macias, number four ranked Jose (Toluco) Lopez and number seven ranked Ricardo Moreno.

In September of 1956 German fought twice, outpointing Kildo Martinez in ten and knocking out Avelino Felix in seven. Felix had just come off of a victory over Luis Gutierrez who had stopped German in his eleventh professional fight. Both victories led to his elevation to the ninth spot in the October “Ring” ratings.

The German Ohm - Jose Becerra rematch took place on October 18, 1956 before a packed arena. Ohm was at his best and gave Becerra a boxing lesson enroute to a unanimous decision. The victory was sweetened when Ohm again was elevated in the “Ring” ratings to number eight. Now the only Mexican bantams rated higher than he were number one Macias, and number six Lopez.

Not one to sit on his laurels, Ohm took out Chango Ceballos in nine rounds and then headed into the biggest fight of his career against unbeaten sensation Carlos Cardoso. Cardoso entered the December 8, 1956 Mexico City showdown unbeaten in 26 fights, with 12 kayos. The 20-year old Ohm ended the 21-year old Cardoso’s streak with a unanimous ten round decision. On January 12, 1957 he met Baby Ruiz in a rematch and repeated his earlier victory by blasting Ruiz out again in one round.

Ohm’s fourteen bout winning streak, including his impressive victories over Baby Ruiz, Jose Becerra and Carlos Cardoso, elevated him to the number four world ranking in the bantamweight division. More importantly, he was now the second ranking bantam in Mexico behind number one ranked Raul Macias. And he was only 20 years old.

Ohm did not fight again until October 26, 1957 and was dropped from “The Ring” ratings for inactivity. The Ring’s La Laguna correspondent Miguel Ramirez Aznar commented that German was in Los Angeles under the wing of Frank Sinatra. Be that as it may, Ohm made his U.S. debut at the Hollywood Legion Stadium against Ross Padilla. Ohm, a 4-1 favorite, suffered a severe gash under his right eye that hampered his performance in the late rounds. Padilla walked off with a controversial majority decision and snapped Ohm’s fourteen fight winning streak.

Two months later, Ohm returned to the Hollywood Legion Stadium to take on Hollywood’s latest bantam sensation 20-year old Horace (Boots) Monroe. Monroe was making his main event debut and entered the ring with a record of 11-1, with 9 kayos. Monroe had no problem with German and knocked him out in the fourth round.

On July 17, 1958 German won a ten round decision over Memo Diez in Matamoros, Mexico in what turned out to be his last professional fight. The 22-year-old German disappeared from boxing with a record of 32-6-1, 22 kayos. But for one 18-month period in time, German Ohm was the toast of the La Laguna Mexican Provinces.

kikibalt
06-11-2009, 08:50 AM
"The Gil Cadilli Story"

"Fight For Ilfe"

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kikibalt
06-16-2009, 10:03 PM
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Dado Marino, Flyweight Champion-1950-51, Davey Gallardo, world ranked featherweight contender-1950's and
Gil Cadilli, world ranked featherweight contender 1950's.
Don Hotel "Galthering of Angels"....August 23, 1968

Davey Gallardo will be inducted into the california Boxing Hall of Fame on September 26, 2009.

kikibalt
06-17-2009, 05:48 PM
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Leo Alonzo vs Mickey Northup
June 25 1957, Post-Fight

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06-25-2009, 10:24 AM
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I remember watching Sammy fight a few times in the early 1950's, remember that he fought and beat Al Galindo on the Carter/Aragon title card, it was a good action fight.

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06-29-2009, 01:03 PM
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08-04-2009, 08:41 PM
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Jose Becerra, Alfonse Halimi & George Parnassus

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Alfonse Halimi & Jose Becerra

kikibalt
08-04-2009, 10:23 PM
Jose Becerra vs Alfonse Halimi

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kikibalt
08-05-2009, 07:16 PM
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Michael Carbajal vs Chiquita Gonzalez

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kikibalt
08-09-2009, 12:16 PM
Manny Madrid was managed by Don Fraser & Georgie Latka

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division lightweight
nationality United States
residence Los Angeles, California, United States
won 29 (KO eight) + lost eight (KO 4) + drawn 4 = 41
rounds boxed 291 : KO% 19.51

1953-10-12 139 Aberdeen Lynch 139 4-7-0
Arena, South Gate, California, United States W MD 10 10
~ referee: Mushy Callahan 57-53 | judge: Jimmy Wilson 55-55 | judge: Reggie Gilmore 60-50 ~

1952-07-26 140½ Philip Kim 140 32-5-2
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L RTD 7 10
~ referee: Frankie Van 31½-35½ ~
Madrid retired in his corner after the 7th round, due to cuts.

1952-06-21 138½ Joey Gurrola 140 15-3-5
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States D PTS 10 10
~ referee: Frankie Van 55-55 | judge: Tommy Herman 55-55 | judge: Dynamite Jackson 56½-53½ ~

1952-02-05 142½ Art Aragon 143½ 50-12-5
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 6 10
~ time: 2:15 | referee: Abe Roth 27-28 | judge: Dynamite Jackson 26½-28½ | judge: Reggie Gilmore 26-29 ~
According to the Los Angeles Times, Madrid suffered from a badly swollen right eye, and had taken a bad beating when Roth stopped the bout.

1951-12-15 140 Don Rogers 139 14-4-1
Eureka, California, United States W KO 8

1951-11-30 137 Enrique Bolanos 137¼ 67-15-3
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States D PTS 10 10
~ referee: Abe Roth 56-54 | judge: Dynamite Jackson 55-55 | judge: Jack McDonald 55-55 ~
Madrid was knocked down for a two-count in the 1st round.

1951-10-21 Chuchu Ruiz 15-12-2
Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico W PTS 10 10

1951-10-05 138¼ Rudy Cruz 138¼ 45-10-3
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L TD 5 10
~ time: 2:02 | referee: Mushy Callahan 22-22 | judge: Dynamite Jackson 20½-23½ | judge: Frank Holborow 20½-23½ ~
Fights stopped when an accidental butt by Madrid opened a gash over Cruz' right eye

1951-09-17 Bobby Brewer 13-17-4
Sports Center, Tucson, Arizona, United States W TKO 5 10
~ time: 1:34 ~
Brewer was stopped on a cut left eye.

1951-08-01 137 Julio Cesar Jimenez 139 29-17-1
Arena Coliseo, Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico W UD 10 10
Madrid "outboxed and outclassed Jiménez during most of the fight, and in the final rounds pinned (Jiménez) with flurries to the head and body." (United Press)

1951-07-06 137 Chu Chu Jiminez 135 21-5-5
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Charley Randolph 59-51 | judge: Frankie Van 60-50 | judge: Dynamite Jackson 61-49 ~

1951-05-25 139¼ Enrique Bolanos 136½ 66-12-2
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States D PTS 10 10
~ referee: Joe Stone 55-55 | judge: Jack McDonald 55-55 | judge: Jimmy Wallace 52½-57½ ~

1951-04-10 137 Chu Chu Jiminez 137 20-4-5
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Reggie Gilmore 59-51 | judge: Tommy Hart 58-52 | judge: Jack McDonald 57-53 ~

1951-04-02 138½ Rafael Hadad Carrillo 136 6-10-1
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States W TKO 9 10
~ time: 0:37 | referee: Mushy Callahan ~

1951-02-03 Alfredo Escobar 33-20-8
Eureka, California, United States W PTS 10 10

1951-01-13 Ernie Greer 11-5-4
Eureka, California, United States W PTS 10 10

1950-12-01 137¾ Enrique Bolanos 137½ 62-10-2
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L RTD 6 10
~ referee: Joe Stone ~
Madrid retired in his corner following the sixth round, due to a cut lip. Madrid was down for a three-count in the 1st, Bolanos for no-count in the 4th round.

1950-08-25 136 Jackie Weber 136 45-16-3
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 10 10
~ time: 1:50 | referee: Joe Stone ~
Weber was knocked down for a two-count in the 9th round, and for a seven-count in the 10th.

1950-08-01 138¼ Emil Barao 137½ 27-26-9
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Charley Randolph 54-56 | judge: Billy Kershner 54-56 | judge: Jimmy Wilson 54½-55½ ~

1950-07-11 138 Eddie Johnson 135½ 13-1-2
San Jose, California, United States D PTS 10 10

1950-06-19 138 Babe Picazo 137 17-12-7
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States W TKO 10 10
~ referee: Johnny Indrisano ~

1950-06-13 Oscar Price 7-10-4
San Jose, California, United States W KO 5

1950-05-29 137 Louis Williams 133 5-3-2
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States W UD 10 10

1950-04-24 138¾ Hugh Sublett 138¾ 14-16-1
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States W TKO 8 10
~ referee: Frankie Van ~

1950-04-17 136¼ Bolton Ford 136 22-11-0
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States W UD 10 10

1950-03-07 135½ Louis Williams 2-1-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1950-02-21 137½ Pee Wee Swingler 137 30-25-9
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1950-02-07 137 Pee Wee Swingler 137 30-24-9
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1949-09-13 137 Archie Whitewater 136 28-6-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 4 8
~ referee: Reggie Gilmore ~
A badly cut lip suffered by Madrid, led to a stoppage.

1949-08-16 137½ Harold Jordan 136 13-16-6
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2 6
~ referee: Tommy Herman ~

1949-07-05 139½ Ray Perez 142 10-9-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4

1948-12-17 136¾ Jean Mougin 136½ 13-7-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L SD 6 6

1948-11-19 135½ Al Gonzales 135½ 18-11-5
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1948-11-12 134 Ray Ramon 132¼ 11-5-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W PTS 4 4

1948-10-19 135½ Butch Maxwell 132¾ 43-42-14
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4

1948-10-08 135½ Jesse Salazar 134¾ 5-18-2
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W PTS 4 4

1948-08-03 135 Tommy Vargas 135 15-9-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L PTS 4 4

1948-07-27 134¾ Tommy Vargas 136 15-8-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4

1948-06-18 133¼ Jess Bojorquez 135¾ 5-2-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W PTS 4 4

1948-06-07 134 Danny Jordan 138 0-0-0
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States W PTS 4 4

1948-06-04 Lee Walker 7-38-4
Coliseum, San Diego, California, United States

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08-24-2009, 10:49 PM
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08-31-2009, 08:43 PM
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Jack Dempsey's Manhatten Gym, Los Angeles, Calif.
1940

Looks like thats Turkey Thompson stepping out of the ring.

kikibalt
09-06-2009, 04:11 PM
MARTY MONROE: A FORGOTTEN CONTENDER
By Jim Amato

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Back in the late 1970’s and early 80’s there was a pretty good heavyweight out on the West Coast. His name was Marty Monroe.

Marty was from Los Angeles and he turned pro in 1974. In 1976 he beat another up and coming heavyweight named Randy Mack. In 1977 he defeated tough Joe Gholston. In 1978 he defeated Leroy Boone.

In 1980 Marty would lose a decision to the rough and rugged Scott Ledoux. Marty bounced right back with impressive stoppage victories over Lynn Ball and Eddie ” The Animal ” Lopez. Marty was now a force to be reckoned with.

In 1981 Monroe would meet the streaking Greg Page. At this time Page was considered one of the best heavyweight prospects in the game. Greg proved to be too much for Monroe halting a game Marty in the sixth round. That might have been the best performance in the career of Greg Page.

Marty would layoff for two years and then return to win two fights. He ended his career in 1983 with a very respectable 25-2-1 record. He scored sixteen knockouts and was stopped only once.

kikibalt
09-17-2009, 05:13 PM
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Bob Foster vs Mike Quarry
June 27, 1972
Convention Center, Las Vegas, Nevada

kikibalt
09-18-2009, 04:18 PM
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kikibalt
10-25-2009, 07:47 PM
World Boxing Hall of Fame...2009

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Two great guys
Dan Hanley and Randy De La O

kikibalt
10-25-2009, 07:55 PM
World Boxing Hall of Fame

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Daniel "Pop" Hanley
"The Irish Godfather"

kikibalt
10-25-2009, 07:56 PM
World Boxing Hall of Fame...2009

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Roger Esty and his paintings

kikibalt
10-25-2009, 08:01 PM
World Boxing Hall of Fame

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"Two kissing buddies"
Bobby Chacon and Roger Esty

kikibalt
10-26-2009, 08:38 AM
World Boxing Hall of Fame...2009

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kikibalt
10-26-2009, 10:32 AM
World Boxing Hall of Fame....2009

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Bobby Chacon and girlfriend Rosie
with a Roger Esty painting of Bobby

kikibalt
12-08-2009, 07:25 PM
Eddie Machen vs Rueben Vargas
May 20, 1959
Cow Palace,San Francisco


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kikibalt
12-15-2009, 07:53 PM
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Bobby Chacon at the GSBA Xmas luncheon
12-15-2009

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12-17-2009, 04:49 PM
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Mando Muniz with the late Ernie "Indian Red" Lopez

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12-17-2009, 07:27 PM
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12-17-2009, 07:28 PM
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Mando Muniz

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12-17-2009, 10:42 PM
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Chango Carmona & Rodolfo "Gato" Gonzalez

kikibalt
12-18-2009, 09:39 AM
Courtesy Rick Farris

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Dwight Hawkins & Rick Farris

kikibalt
12-19-2009, 05:06 PM
The "Maravilla Kid"

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Ruben Navarro

kikibalt
12-28-2009, 04:36 PM
Pipino Cuevas v. Randy Shields 30 July 1979 Chicago Stadium Chicago, Illinois W.B.A. Welterweight Championship of the World, Referee Luis Salbaran 71-70, Judge Albert Tremari 73-67 and Judge Marco Antonio Rodriguez 71-70 Unanimous Decision for Pipino Cuevas

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kikibalt
01-08-2010, 03:26 PM
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Vincente Saldivar vs Howard Winstone

June 15,1967

kikibalt
01-08-2010, 04:35 PM
Courtesy Rick Farris

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Rick Farris (L) vs. Jose Mendoza
The Forum, 1972. Referee- Dick Young

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01-12-2010, 08:55 PM
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01-13-2010, 06:48 PM
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Jimmy Abeyta

division flyweight
nationality United States

residence Oakland, California, United States
won 15 (KO 10) + lost 7 (KO 1) + drawn 4 = 26
rounds boxed 172 KO% 38.46

1961-09-18 115 Herman Marques 118 15-7-1
Kezar Pavilion, San Francisco, California, United States L UD 12 12
~ referee: Fred Apostoli 2-10 | judge: Tony Bosnich 0-11 | judge: Bob Mitchell 3-7 ~
~ USA California State bantamweight title ~

1961-06-01 117 Manny Elias 117 18-13-0
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States L PTS 10 10
~ referee: Vern Bybee 1-5 ~

1961-02-13 118 Ronnie Perez 122½ 9-4-5
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States L PTS 10 10
~ referee: Elmer Costa 2-5 ~
Perez "handed Jimmy Abeyta a sound boxing lesson.." (United Press)

1961-01-18 Pimi Barajas 118½ 20-16-1
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States W PTS 10 10
~ referee: Tony Bosnich 7-1 ~

1960-11-16 117 Rocky Fontanette 131 5-13-3
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States W TKO 2 10
~ time: 1:46 | referee: Vern Bybee ~

1960-10-26 116½ Vince Castro 117 6-2-2
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States W KO 1 10
~ time: 1:21 | referee: Fred Apostoli ~

1960-08-25 Jesus Miranda 0-5-0
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States W TKO 4 10
~ referee: Elmer Costa ~

1960-07-06 115 Frankie Duarte 118 1-9-0
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States W KO 7 10

1958-07-21 Ramon Calatayud 15-4-3
Caracas, Venezuela L PTS 10 10

1958-05-24 Mario de Leon 19-10-1
San Diego, California, United States L KO 9 10

1958-04-22 112 Ramon Calatayud 112 15-4-2
Auditorium, Richmond, California, United States D PTS 12 12
~ referee: Jack Downey 113-115 | judge: Tony Bosnich 116-114 | judge: Vern Bybee 115-115 ~
Vacant North American Flyweight Title

1958-03-27 111½ Ramon Calatayud 111½ 14-4-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Tommy Hart 87-100 | judge: Jimmy Wilson 84-100 | judge: Dynamite Jackson 90-99 ~

1958-01-14 115 Herman Marques 117¼ 4-0-0
Auditorium, Richmond, California, United States W PTS 10 10
~ referee: Jack Downey 97-94 ~

1957-11-18 Baby Rios 0-5-1
San Diego, California, United States W KO 1

1957-10-22 112 Abe Villa 111½ 9-1-1
Auditorium, Richmond, California, United States W KO 9 12
~ time: 0:34 | referee: Jack Silver ~
~ USA California State flyweight title ~
Villa was knocked down in the 1st and 9th round.

1957-01-15 114 Tony Ganados 118 1-2-0
Auditorium, Richmond, California, United States W TKO 9 10

1956-05-19 112 Jackie Spurgeon 110 4-4-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 10 12
~ USA California State flyweight title ~

1956-02-22 116 Freddie Viscarra 119 5-0-3
San Francisco Gardens, San Francisco, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1956-01-18 114 Freddie Viscarra 116 5-0-2
Cow Palace, San Francisco, California, United States D PTS 6 6

1955-12-13 116 Baby Ballas 119 1-0-0
Auditorium, Richmond, California, United States W TKO 2 6

1955-11-03 115 Jackie Herrera 115 1-5-0
Winterland Arena, San Francisco, California, United States W KO 2 4
~ time: 1:38 ~

1955-10-05 112 Jess Martinez 112 0-1-0
Auditorium, Richmond, California, United States W PTS 4 4

1955-08-30 115 Tony Duran 117
Auditorium, Richmond, California, United States W PTS 4 4

1955-08-16 116¼ Freddie Viscarra 120 5-0-1
Auditorium, Richmond, California, United States D PTS 4 4

1955-08-02 115 Freddie Viscarra 118 5-0-0
Auditorium, Richmond, California, United States D PTS 4 4

1951-08-22 112 Raul Murillo 113
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States L PTS 4 4
Both made their debuts.The Ring,Nov 1951

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01-13-2010, 06:49 PM
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Jimmy Abeyta vs Ramon Calatayud
Vacant North American Flyweight Title

April 22, 1958, The Coliseum,Richmond, California
The fight ended in a draw.

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kikibalt
02-02-2010, 09:10 PM
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Bobby Chacon vs. Turi Pineda
February 15, 1973 - Olympic Auditorium

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Bobby Chacon had only been a pro ten months when he KOed Turi Pineda for his 15th consecutive win and 14th knockout. This was an explosive bout in which both fighters were rocked prior to Bobby putting Pineda to sleep in the fifth round.


-Rick Farris

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03-20-2010, 06:52 AM
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Mando Ramos, Frankie Duarte and Raul Rojas.

kikibalt
06-28-2010, 03:58 PM
CBHOF-2010

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Bobby Chacon

kikibalt
06-28-2010, 04:00 PM
CBHOF-2010

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Oklahoma Jack, former feathweight, Dino Ramirez, former welterweight/middleweight, Orlando De La Fuentes

kikibalt
06-28-2010, 04:02 PM
CBHOF-2010

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Two ex-pugs Dino Ramirez and Bobby Chacon

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06-28-2010, 04:04 PM
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Tom Ray, and two of L.A's Finest, Bobby Chacon and Danny Lopez

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07-10-2010, 01:32 PM
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Frankie Duarte

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08-05-2010, 01:25 PM
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Lilly Rodriguez

vic_roc_13
08-17-2010, 07:08 PM
Great stuff ! I enjoy going through all these pics w/ my kids. Show them the great talent & tradition L.A has. This site means the world to those who want to preserve the past of a true fight town ! GRACIAS Don KIKI.

vic_roc_13
08-17-2010, 07:15 PM
Man i remember Pipino Cuevas in the lobby of the Alexandria hotel in the mid 70's , I was a kid and shook his hand , That guy was all business.

kikibalt
09-20-2010, 05:06 PM
Candy Lopez
A forgotten Fighter from L.A.'s golden era. Candy had an attention gimmick, during his walk to the ring he and his corner people would toss candies to the fans.

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division featherweight
stance southpaw
alias Al

country United States
residence Hollywood, California, United States

won 13 (KO 8) + lost 4 (KO 2) + drawn 1 = 18
rounds boxed 78 KO% 44.44

1957-03-23 130 Jimmy Lassiter 131 5-7-4
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L UD 6 6

1956-06-02 131 Jesse Resendez 130 7-2-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W SD 6 6

1956-03-27 129 Benny Coca 129 5-4-2
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 1 6
~ referee: Tommy Hart ~
Coca was knocked down twice.

1956-02-04 130½ Billy Walker 128¼ 2-0-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 6 6

1955-03-12 124 Larry Vasquez 129 3-1-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L TKO 6 8
~ time: 2:37 | referee: Dynamite Jackson ~

1954-11-06 121½ Walter Caldwell 121½ 1-4-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 4 6
~ time: 0:43 ~
Caldwell was knocked down four times

1954-10-09 Collier Cox 10-4-2
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W KO 4 6

1954-07-24 124½ Kildo Martinez 127 2-4-4
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W SD 6 6

1954-06-05 121½ Gil Velarde 125½ 6-3-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L SD 6 6

1954-03-27 124½ Fugi Rodriguez 125½ 5-5-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1954-02-27 Manuel Ramirez 1-0-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W KO 4 6

1954-01-23 123¼ Mickey McGuire 126 1-0-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W KO 4 6
McGuire was knocked down once in the 1st, 3rd, and 4th round.

1953-12-26 122½ Mr Boston 123½ 5-7-2
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 5 6
~ referee: Dynamite Jackson ~

1953-11-21 Mr Boston 5-7-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States D PTS 6 6

1953-10-24 Tony Silva
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W PTS 4 4

1953-08-22 123½ Vic Kid Ponce 125 4-1-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L TKO 1 6

1953-06-22 122½ Bobby Leal 118¾ 0-1-0
Arena, South Gate, California, United States W KO 1 4

1953-06-08 123½ Joe Garcia 123 1-14-2
Arena, South Gate, California, United States W TKO

kikibalt
09-20-2010, 05:08 PM
Young Jack Johnson
Another one that made the list of the Forgotten

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birth date 1928-10-26
death date 1963-10-01
division heavyweight
height 6′ 3″ / 191cm

country United States
residence Los Angeles, California, United States

birth place Lockhart, Texas, United States
birth name John Lee Storey

won 24 (KO 13) + lost 20 (KO 3) + drawn 1 = 45
rounds boxed 363 KO% 28.89


1963-04-02 233 Cleveland Williams 213 55-4-1
Sam Houston Coliseum, Houston, Texas, United States L TKO 10 10
~ referee: Jimmy Webb ~

1963-01-05 235 Ernie Terrell 203 28-4-0
Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, United States L PTS 10 10

1962-12-14 240 Ernie Terrell 199 27-4-0
Coliseum, Chicago, Illinois, United States L UD 10 10

1962-05-26 223¾ Sonny Banks 190½ 10-3-0
Graystone Ballroom, Detroit, Michigan, United States W KO 5 10

1962-02-26 245 Brian London 213½ 24-8-0
King's Hall, Belle Vue, Manchester, Lancashire, United Kingdom L PTS 10 10x3

1961-10-06 219½ Thorner Ahsman 196¾ 10-2-2
Masshallen, Gothenburg, Sweden W KO 4 8
~ time: 2:39 | referee: Åke Jacobsson ~
Åhsman down in 3rd and three times in 4th

1961-09-29 233 Karl Mildenberger 188 26-1-0
Sportpalast, Schoeneberg, Berlin, Germany L PTS 10 10

1961-07-10 225 Roger Rischer 194 17-6-2
Kezar Pavilion, San Francisco, California, United States L PTS 10 10
~ referee: Tony Bosnich 2-8 ~

1961-06-07 225 George Logan 207 19-4-1
Boise, Idaho, United States W MD 10 10
~ referee: Jim Nally 99-98 | 97-97 | 97-97 ~

1961-05-04 206 Amos Lincoln 210 26-2-1
Coliseum, Spokane, Washington, United States L PTS 10 10

1961-02-18 Willi Besmanoff 44-24-7
Fairgrounds Coliseum, Salt Lake City, Utah, United States W SD 10 10
~ referee: Ken Shulsen 96-95 | judge: Del Markham 96-95 | judge: Max Kosof 88-96 ~

1961-02-04 242 Cortez Stewart 244 16-2-0
Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, United States L UD 10 10~ 4-5 | 4-5 | judge: Mike Davidowitch 3-7 ~

1961-01-26 Walter Robinson 4-16-0
Athletic Club, West Jordan, Utah, United States W KO 3

1960-12-03 240 Tommy Fields 210 9-6-2
Sports Arena, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 5 6

1960-11-11 Clarence Williams 6-14-1
Logan, Utah, United States W KO 5

1960-07-18 220 Andy Isaacs 198 5-14-1
Coliseum, Denver, Colorado, United States W PTS 6 6

1959-03-05 218 Eddie Machen 194 24-1-1
Portland, Oregon, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Ralph Gruman 91-100 | judge: George Robinson 95-99 | judge: Eddie Volk 94-99 ~

1958-12-09 218 Reuben Vargas 190 16-6-0
Memorial Auditorium, Sacramento, California, United States L TKO 9 12
~ referee: Johnny Reno | 82-90 | 84-89 | 84-88 ~
~ vacant USA California State heavyweight title ~

1958-04-21 208 Willie Wilson 210 22-5-0
Arcadia Ballroom, Providence, Rhode Island, United States W UD 8 8

1958-01-29 214 Wayne Bethea 204 16-7-2
Chicago Stadium, Chicago, Illinois, United States L UD 10 10
~ 44-48 | 43-49 | 40-48 ~

1957-09-26 215 Duke Sabedong 215 13-4-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10

1956-11-16 201 Harold Carter 194¼ 20-2-2
Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, United States L UD 10 10~ referee: Ruby Goldstein 3-6 | judge: Bert Grant 2-8 | judge: Artie Aidala 1-9 ~

1956-09-13 203½ Ben Wise 193 8-5-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Dynamite Jackson 97-93 | judge: Lee Grossman 96-95 | judge: Jack McDonald 98-94 ~

1956-08-16 205 Duke Sabedong 207 13-3-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: George Latka 98-85 | judge: Russ Bradford 98-90 | judge: Tommy Herman 97-92 ~

1956-07-21 Roger Rischer 185 13-4-2
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L PTS 12 12
California State Heavyweight Title Eliminator.
Johnson had been stripped of the title shortly before the bout, for failing to defend in the last six months.

1956-03-20 205 Ben Wise 201 5-5-1
Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States L TKO 4 10
~ time: 1:10 | referee: Vern Bybee ~

1956-02-23 210½ Johnny Summerlin 194½ 28-4-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L UD 10 10
~ referee: Abe Roth 53-57 | judge: John Thomas 54-56 | judge: George Latka 50½-59½ ~

1955-12-29 209 Ezzard Charles 196 89-16-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 6
~ referee: Lee Grossman ~
Charles suffered a badly cut lip and was unable to continue.

1955-12-01 208 Zora Folley 189 21-1-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W RTD 5 12
~ 29-26 ~
~ USA California State heavyweight title ~
Folley retired in his corner after the 5th round, citing an injured rib.

1955-11-19 206 Marty Marshall 178 22-8-2
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 10 10

1955-09-10 206 Willie Bean 208 41-23-5
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W PTS 12 12
~ USA California State heavyweight title ~

1955-05-12 207 Johnny Summerlin 193 23-4-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L MD 10 10
~ referee: Tommy Hart 53-57 | judge: John Thomas 52½-57½ | judge: Russ Bradford 55-55 ~

1955-04-23 210 Gene Thompson 184½ 5-2-3
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 5 10
~ time: 1:28 | referee: Dynamite Jackson ~
Thompson was knocked down once in the 3rd round, and twice in the 5th round.

1955-02-12 Willie Bean 41-21-5
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W PTS 12 12
~ USA California State heavyweight title ~

1954-11-27 203 Frank Buford 211 22-27-7
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 4 10
~ time: 0:47 | referee: Joe Stone ~
The bout was stopped after Buford was knocked down for the first time.

1954-07-10 209 Willie Bean 207 39-19-5
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L SD 12 12
~ referee: Joe Stone 64½-66½ | judge: Lee Grossman 65-66 | judge: Charley Randolph 66-65 ~
~ USA California State heavyweight title ~

1954-05-15 207 Willie Bean 203 39-18-5
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 12 12
~ referee: Frankie Van 66-63 | judge: Charley Randolph 69-60 | judge: Jimmy Wilson 65-64 ~
~ USA California State heavyweight title ~
Bean was knocked down for an eight-count in the 2nd round.

1954-03-01 204 Frank Buford 210½ 22-23-7
Arena, South Gate, California, United States W RTD 3 10
Buford did not come out for the 4th round, due to a shoulder injury.

1953-11-07 202 Frankie Daniels 178 22-7-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L SD 10 10

1953-09-05 207 Gene Brown 187 9-5-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 2 10
~ time: 2:12 | referee: Charley Randolph ~

1953-08-01 207 Sonny Andrews 175 12-8-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L MD 10 10
~ referee: Charley Randolph 55-55 | judge: Tommy Hart 54-56 | judge: Jack McDonald 54-56 ~

1953-06-15 208 Sonny Andrews 179 12-8-0
Arena, South Gate, California, United States D PTS 10 10

1953-06-06 208 Harland Kelly 228 1-1-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 2 6

~ time: 1:20 | referee: Tommy Hart ~

1953-04-14 217½ Fred Taylor 198 0-2-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 3 4

1953-03-28 222 Kirby Seals 196 1-1-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L SD 4 4

kikibalt
09-21-2010, 01:59 PM
Manny Renteria
Renteria was tag as a can't-miss prospect, sure to a be champion. He got derail when he fought Don Jordan, and was never the same after that.

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division lightweight

country United States
residence Hollywood, California, United States
won 15 (KO eight) + lost 6 (KO three) + drawn 1 = 22
rounds boxed 133 KO% 36.36


1956-12-12 George Dunn 65-18-7
Calgary, Alberta, Canada L TKO 6 10
~ time: 0:43 ~

1955-02-22 138 Sonny Amoroso 139 11-1-1
Auditorium, Richmond, California, United States L KO 8 10
~ time: 2:22 | referee: Jack Silver 39-38 ~
Renteria was knocked down for an eight count in the 1st round.

1955-02-10 Eddie Chavez 49-7-3
Winterland Arena, San Francisco, California, United States L SD 10 10
~ referee: Ray Flores 56-54 | judge: Eddie James 53-57 | judge: Jack Downey 54-56 ~

1955-01-27 141½ Frankie Cockrell 140½ 27-20-8
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L SD 10 10
~ referee: Lee Grossman 57½-52½ | judge: George Latka 54-56 | judge: Abe Roth 52-58 ~

1954-11-29 134 Don Jordan 135 15-2-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L KO 7 12
~ time: 1:20 | referee: Abe Roth ~
~ USA California State lightweight title ~
Roth counted out Renteria on his feet, when he became entangled in the ropes, while stunned.

1954-09-27 138 Lavert Smith 141 14-10-3
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 6 10
~ time: 1:26 | referee: Tommy Hart ~

1954-08-09 135½ Freddie Herman 143 46-40-8
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Tommy Hart 57½-52½ | judge: Charley Randolph 57-53 | judge: George Latka 59-51 ~
Herman was knocked down in the 1st round

1954-06-21 140 Mario Trigo 139 62-42-10
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 10 10
~ referee: Charley Randolph 54-58 | judge: Frankie Van 55-55 | judge: Dynamite Jackson 55-55 ~

1954-05-04 139 Joe Felan 140 24-2-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 4 10
~ time: 0:11 | referee: Frankie Van ~
Felan was knocked down in the 3rd and 4th round.

1954-03-23 138 Johnny Efhan 137 16-7-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W RTD 4 10
~ referee: Reggie Gilmore ~
Efhan was knocked down in the 1st round. Renteria was down in the 4th round. Efhan did not come out for the 5th round.

1954-02-16 138¼ Armando Muniz 138½ 12-2-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2 10
~ time: 2:28 | referee: Reggie Gilmore ~

1954-01-12 137 Baby Face Mathis 138 38-23-8
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 6 6
Renteria was knocked down in the 2nd round.

1953-12-01 137 Armando Muniz 137½ 11-1-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W SD 6 6

1953-07-28 138 Armand Goetters 139½ 7-0-1
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 5 6
~ referee: Dynamite Jackson ~

1953-06-06 135 Marvin Smith 135½ 27-16-4
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 6 6

1953-05-02 133 Jimmy Grow 133 14-6-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 4 6
~ referee: Dynamite Jackson ~
The bout was halted when Grow suffered a broken nose.

1953-04-04 133 Rudy Jordan 137 7-0-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L SD 6 6

1953-03-07 130 LeRoy Richards 126 3-3-2
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1953-02-14 132 Mickey Northrup 130 15-6-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W PTS 6 6

1953-01-03 130½ Henry Briere 132 16-46-6
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 6 6

1952-12-02 136 Chato Duarte 139 1-2-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 1 4

1952-10-16 134 Armando Rivera 132
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4

kikibalt
09-23-2010, 08:05 PM
Photo Courtesy of Armando Cabrera
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Jose Mantequilla Napoles

From this past weekend at the FanFeast at the Staples Center and L.A. Live the day before the Mosley-Mora fight.

kikibalt
10-03-2010, 12:45 PM
The good fight
Eddie Johnson and Canto ‘TNT’ Robledo will both be memorialized at Villa Parke

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Canto Robledo

By Andre Coleman

Some consider a plan to honor two local boxing legends instead of just one a good compromise, but not everyone is happy with the deal brokered by City Councilman Victor Gordo.

Under that plan, the city will allow the placement of a privately financed statue honoring the achievements of trainer Canto “TNT” Robledo at Villa-Parke Community Center, and then rename the facility’s boxing gym for fellow trainer Eddie Johnson, who did most of his work at that gym until his death in 2000.

Robledo, who was blinded during a fight in 1932 but went on to train several top-ranked fighters at his Crown City Gym on Manzanita Street, died the previous year following a stroke.

“I am OK with it,” Canto’s son, Joe Robledo, said of Gordo’s proposal. “If they want to put Eddie Johnson’s name on the ring canvas or rename the gym after him, I am happy with that — as long as there is no interference with the statue of Canto Robledo.”

However, Charles “Buddy” Bereal, former head of the Pasadena Branch of the NAACP and a onetime professional fighter, said he believes placing the statue at the Villa-Parke Community Center gives the wrong impression about Canto Robledo’s actual involvement there.

The statue is expected to cost some $100,000 and, according to drawings, will depict Robledo interacting with two young children.

Bereal was not part of the talks conducted by Gordo. “Pasadena is one of the coldest cities when it comes to the treatment of African-Americans. I am happy they are going to name the gym after Eddie. He deserves it,” Bereal said. “They should have named Manzanita Park after Canto.”
Renaming the park was Joe Robledo’s first idea after the Mexican-American History Association met with him to discuss ways to commemorate his father’s contributions to the city.

However, the city rejected that idea and soon afterward began discussions on erecting a statue. Over the past year, Robledo family members have been privately raising funds for the project.

Both Canto Robledo and Johnson trained fighters in the 1960s and ’70s, a time when interest in local fighting was at an all-time high, due in part to televised fights at the Olympic Auditorium and other venues.

The controversy started when Johnson’s supporters became upset after reading an article in the Pasadena Weekly in which city officials stated that Villa-Parke would be the best place to put a statue of Robledo.

Robledo lost his sight shortly after winning the Pacific Bantamweight Championship and became a trainer, running Crown City Boxing out of his garage on Manzanita Street, about five miles from Villa-Parke.

The statue would be the first honoring a Mexican-American in Pasadena and the first donated to the city by a family. So far, Robledo family members say they have raised more than $10,000 for the statue through concerts and fundraisers.

Joe Robledo is scheduled to meet with Public Works Director Martin Pastucha on Tuesday to discuss the statue’s dimensions.

Johnson supporters point out that Robledo never had any connection to the city’s program, which was started by Johnson and Bereal almost 35 years ago, when the neighborhoods surrounding Villa-Parke were populated largely by African-American families.

“We finally came to a consensus and we compromised,” said Tim Rhambo, who was trained by Johnson and now volunteers at Villa-Parke. “Canto was on the other side of town, and that’s OK, that’s fine.” But, he said, “Eddie Johnson was here working for the city and working with a lot of the youth. How can we honor this guy and not honor one of our guys who was here helping the kids?”
After being turned down on a proposed name change of Manzanita Park, the Robledo family had hopes of placing the statue in Memorial Park, in Old Pasadena. However, city officials soon told them only war memorials are allowed there, and that they would have to come up with yet another plan.

At that point, Interim City Manager Bernard Melekian, while on business in Fresno, saw a statue there commemorating “Gentleman” Jack Dempsey. Melekian was impressed by how youngsters still looked at the statue and suggested that the Robledo memorial be placed at Villa-Parke, where the adjacent neighborhoods are now largely inhabited by Latino families.

“If we are going to build the statue of someone famous from the Mexican-American community, what better place to put it than the place where the kids in the local boxing program can draw from its inspiration,” Melekian told the Weekly in July.

Rachel Heredia, secretary of the Pasadena Mexican-American History Association, said she and other members of the organization were pleased with the compromise.

“It is fine with us. We never had any negative feelings about them wanting to do something for Eddie Johnson,” Heredia said. “The only thing we didn’t like is they said they did not want the statue there. Canto is a great role model for the youth there. As Mexican-Americans, we feel we can leave something that shows the history of Mexican-Americans in the city. There is nothing in Pasadena that shows that Mexican-Americans have lived in this community.”

Gordo said he was heartened to see people now recognizing Canto Robledo’s contributions to boxing and Pasadena.

“He overcame a lot of personal and physical obstacles and found a way through boxing to contribute to a lot of people in Pasadena,” Gordo said of Canto. “In short, he’s a Pasadenan we can be proud of. The same can be said of Eddie Johnson. He overcame a lot and persevered and his legacy continues today at Villa-Parke, and we should use their efforts to inspire others.”

kikibalt
10-14-2010, 08:01 PM
Ramon Tiscareno will be inducted into the CBHOF next year....

Tiscareno was one of the fighters living in the Maravilla Projects in the early '50's.
Ramon was a good boxer but without much of a punch.

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division welterweight

country Mexico
residence Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico

won 56 (KO 15) + lost 14 (KO 8) + drawn 4 = 74
rounds boxed 536 KO% 20.27



1958-02-01 148 Karl Heinz Guder 149 21-4-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L KO 5 10
~ time: 2:59 ~

1957-11-16 147½ Vince Martinez 148½ 57-5-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L TKO 6 10
~ time: 0:29 | referee: Frankie Van ~

1957-08-24 144½ Willie Morton 143 9-0-0
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Jimmy Wilson 96-95 | judge: Frankie Van 96-94 | judge: Charley Randolph 97-94 ~
Morton was knocked down for a two-count in the 1st round.

1957-08-05 Steve Tony 5-4-0
San Bernardino, California, United States W KO 1

1957-04-27 146 Alvaro Gutierrez 146 12-4-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 6 10
~ time: 2:53 | referee: John Thomas ~
Gutierrez was halted, due to a cut over one of his eyes.

1956-10-06 David Cervantes 12-11-2
Monterrey, Nuevo León, Mexico W KO 9 10

1956-09-24 Gilberto Holguin 11-3-4
Auditorio Municipal, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W UD 10 10

1956-05-12 145½ Art Ramponi 137½ 21-9-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 10 10

1956-02-07 148 Art Aragon 146 69-16-5
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L KO 2 10
~ time: 2:38 | referee: Abe Roth ~
Tiscareno floored Aragon for an 8-count in the second round, but Art then put Tiscareno down twice, the second time for the full count.

1955-11-12 146 Henry Davis 139 50-20-5
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 10 10

1955-10-22 147½ Dick Goldstein 147 27-9-2
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 10 10
Goldstein was knocked down in the 9th round.

1955-10-03 Julio Cesar Jimenez 33-22-4
Auditorio Municipal, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W UD 10 10

1955-09-15 145½ Carlos Chavez 142½ 66-30-9
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Tommy Hart 57-53 | judge: Jack McDonald 57-53 | judge: Mushy Callahan 59-51 ~

1955-08-18 146½ Woody Winslow 151 19-26-7
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 3 10
~ time: 2:28 | referee: Lee Grossman ~
Tiscareno was knocked down six times in the 3rd round.

1955-07-09 146 Philip Kim 148 41-12-3
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 10 10

1955-05-24 El Conscripto 27-20-4
Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico W PTS 10 10

1955-04-24 David Cervantes 5-8-2
Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico W KO 8

1955-03-22 147½ Art Soto 152½ 37-19-4
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Mushy Callahan 56½-53½ | judge: Charley Randolph 56-54 | judge: Jimmy Wallace 57-53 ~

1955-02-21 146 Giuseppe Fusaro 146 38-21-16
Civic Center, Butte, Montana, United States W UD 10 10

1955-02-03 148 Ernie Greer 147 24-19-11
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: George Latka 58-51 | judge: Frankie Van 58-51 | judge: Frank Holborow 56½-52½ ~

1955-01-18 147 Lou Gage 149½ 11-2-0
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: John Thomas 57-53 | judge: Frankie Van 59½-50½ | judge: Tommy Hart 58-52 ~

1954-12-28 146½ Ernie Greer 150 24-19-10
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States D PTS 10 10
~ referee: Russ Bradford 55-55 ~

1954-11-23 146½ Frankie Ray 146 3-2-0
Arena, Ocean Park, California, United States W RTD 6 10
Ray was down in the 4th round, his corner stopped the bout after the 6th round.

1954-10-18 145¾ Gerald Dreyer 149½ 38-5-2
St. Nicholas Arena, New York, New York, United States L TKO 1 10
Tiscareno was down three times triggering an automatic stoppage.

1954-07-19 144½ Mario Trigo 139¼ 62-42-11
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Dynamite Jackson 58½-51½ | judge: Joe Stone 58-52 | judge: Reggie Gilmore 58-52 ~

1954-06-28 145 Giampaolo Melis 146 29-6-2
Civic Center, Butte, Montana, United States W UD 10 10
Melis was knocked down in the 10th round

1954-04-27 147½ Lou Gage 148 10-1-0
Memorial Auditorium, Sacramento, California, United States W PTS 10 10

1954-03-29 147 Emerson Butcher 145 26-17-11
Civic Center, Butte, Montana, United States W UD 10 10
"Neither battler was visibly marked during the 10-rounder, in which no knockdowns were recorded. Tiscareno piled up points with his sharper punching...." (United Press)

1954-02-22 Bill Sudduth 41-12-5
Civic Center, Butte, Montana, United States W SD 10 10

1953-12-14 143¼ Chu Chu Jiminez 142 26-19-7
Arena, South Gate, California, United States W TKO 6 10
~ time: 0:55 | referee: Lee Grossman ~
Bout was stopped because of a badly cut eye.

1953-11-03 141½ Joe Fisher 141 26-8-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W KO 2 10
~ time: 0:45 | referee: Joe Stone ~

1953-10-20 Freddie Herman 138 42-34-8
Sacramento, California, United States W PTS 10 10

1953-09-15 141 Mario Trigo 138 60-37-9
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L MD 10 10
~ referee: Charley Randolph 54-56½ | judge: Mushy Callahan 54½-55½ | judge: Lee Grossman 55-55 ~

1953-08-11 139½ Santiago Esteban 138½ 20-2-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 7 10
~ time: 2:24 | referee: Joe Stone ~
Esteban was knocked down for a nine-count in the 6th round. He was knocked down once more in the 7th round.

1953-06-23 138½ Santiago Esteban 140 20-1-0
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W MD 10 10
~ referee: Reggie Gilmore 56½-53½ | judge: Jimmy Wallace 55-55 | judge: Jimmy Wilson 56-54 ~

1953-05-19 141 Freddie Herman 141½ 39-31-5
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W MD 10 10
~ referee: Mushy Callahan 57-53 | judge: Lee Grossman 55-55 | judge: Reggie Gilmore 57-53 ~
Tiscareno was knocked down in the 1st round, for a one-count.

1953-03-14 142 Archie Whitewater 146 46-17-5
Municipal Auditorium, Eureka, California, United States W PTS 10 10

1952-12-06 Joey Gurrola 15-3-6
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 10 10
~ time: 0:55 | referee: Mushy Callahan 46-43 ~
Gurrola was knocked down twice in the 9th round.

1952-11-19 Jose Galacia 4-0-0
Auditorio Municipal, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W PTS 8 8

1952-10-06 136 Eddie Chavez 138 40-6-3
American Legion, Butte, Montana, United States L KO 5 10
~ time: 1:10 ~

1952-09-05 Jorge Macias 9-8-2
Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico W KO 9

1952-08-23 135½ Carmen Venuto 135½ 5-2-1
Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W PTS 6 6
Tiscareno was knocked down in the 4th round, Venuto in the 5th.

1952-08-08 David Cervantes
Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico W PTS 10 10

1952-06-14 Babe Ruelas 2-4-0
Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico L KO 4

1952-05-17 Chico Escamilla 6-3-1
Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico W KO 3

1952-04-15 141 Oscar Price 135 10-14-4
Armory, Albuquerque, New Mexico, United States L SD 10 10
~ referee: Jim Cleary | judge: Johnny Letto | judge: Johnny Schubert ~

1951-09-26 Baby Face Mathis 30-17-8
Bull Ring, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W PTS 10 10

1951-08-21 Bobby Rodriguez
Bull Ring, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W KO 2 10
~ time: 2:22 ~

1951-07-18 Hank Davis 22-9-7
Phoenix, Arizona, United States W PTS 6 6

1951-07-03 Ray Perez 6-0-4
Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W PTS 6 6

1951-06-15 Ray Perez 6-0-3
El Paso, Texas, United States D PTS 6 6

1951-04-20 Jose Roque 0-1-0
Acapulco, Guerrero, Mexico W KO 3

1951-04-18 Pancho Velasco 1-5-0
Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico W KO 3

1951-03-31 Baby Vasquez 7-4-0
Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico L PTS 10 10

1951-01-24 136¼ Ray Perez 138 4-0-2
Coliseum, El Paso, Texas, United States L PTS 10 10

1950-12-06 Rudy Valdez 0-2-0
Auditorio Municipal, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W TKO 3 6
~ referee: Bobby Fernandez ~

1950-11-08 Jorge Cid 0-3-0
Auditorio Municipal, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W PTS 6 6

1950-10-18 Tony Olivas 6-5-2
Auditorio Municipal, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W PTS 6 6

1950-10-03 Jorge Cid 0-2-0
Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W PTS 6 6

1950-09-20 Juan Leanos 7-5-0
Torreon, Coahuila de Zaragoza, Mexico L PTS 10 10

1950-09-13 Francisco Babe Escoria 0-1-0
Torreon, Coahuila de Zaragoza, Mexico W PTS 10 10

1950-09-08 Ray Perez 4-0-0
Bull Ring, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico D PTS 6 6

1950-08-28 Johnny Hart 6-2-2
Phoenix, Arizona, United States W PTS 6 6

1950-08-16 133 Ray Perez 135½ 3-0-0
El Paso County Coliseum, El Paso, Texas, United States L SD 6 6

1950-08-09 126 Marcus Vasquez 127 12-14-5
Softball Park, Phoenix, Arizona, United States D PTS 6 6

1950-07-28 Jorge Cid 0-1-0
Bull Ring, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W SD 6 6

1950-05-07 Alex Fimbres
Superior, Arizona, United States W PTS 6 6

1950-03-07 Enrique Estrada 2-3-2
Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W PTS 6 6

1950-02-08 Marcus Vasquez 7-10-2
Phoenix, Arizona, United States W PTS 6 6

1950-02-08 Jose Arguelles 0-2-0
Auditorio Municipal, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W PTS 6 6

1950-01-03 Enrique Estrada 2-1-1
Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W PTS 6 6

1949-12-20 Gerardo Muniz 7-4-1
Auditorio Municipal, Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Mexico W UD 6 6

1949-12-12 133 Bobby Satchell 130 3-3-2
San Agustin Arena, Tucson, Arizona, United States W PTS 4 4

1949-07-11 Packy McFarland 3-0-1
Sports Center, Tucson, Arizona, United States L KO 2 6
~ time: 2:25 | referee: Sonny Valdez ~

kikibalt
10-15-2010, 07:31 PM
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Henry Harris, Al Weill and Roy "Cut-N-Shoot" Harris
Presser for Harris fight with Floyd Patterson
1958

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kikibalt
10-15-2010, 07:32 PM
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Cisco Andrade vs Art Aragon

kikibalt
10-15-2010, 07:33 PM
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Jose Becerra vs Alphonse Halimi

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kikibalt
10-15-2010, 09:34 PM
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Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena...1958

kikibalt
10-15-2010, 09:35 PM
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Lauro Salas & Cisco Andrade with actress Shirley Price

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kikibalt
10-16-2010, 10:39 AM
Manuel Ortiz vs Jackie Graves. Another fight I seen live at the Olympic in 1951, or was it in '52?,
the old mind don't work all that good anymore.... What ever!, Ortiz lost a ten round decision,
that I do remember.
Ortiz, imho was the greatest bantamweight ever.

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kikibalt
10-16-2010, 12:45 PM
Art Aragon vs Teddy "Red Top" Davis
A fight I didn't see

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kikibalt
10-16-2010, 02:42 PM
I was at this fight, but I didn't get to see too much, as I was sitting about a mile away....:(

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kikibalt
10-16-2010, 09:59 PM
Jose Toluco Lopez vs Billy Peacock. This fight was held at Wrigley Field on the Pajarito Moreno vs Hogan Kid Bassey card on April 1,1958. Our friend Danny Valdez also fought on the card. I was there that nite.... :TU:

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kikibalt
10-17-2010, 09:13 AM
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Jose Luis otero with the first light heavyweight champion, Jack Root


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Jose Luis Cotero, Sam Schmitzer & Jack Root

kikibalt
10-17-2010, 05:14 PM
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Art Aragon vs Johnny Gonsalves

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I was at the Olympic for this 1951 fight and I can still clearly hear the roar of the crowd as Aragon was pounding Gonsalves against the rope.

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Johnny Gonsalves vs Art Aragon

kikibalt
10-20-2010, 08:29 AM
Don Jordan (in black) vs Isac Logart

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kikibalt
10-21-2010, 08:27 AM
Alejandro Lavorante vs Zora Folley

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kikibalt
12-23-2010, 09:36 AM
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kikibalt
12-23-2010, 09:38 AM
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dongee
01-01-2011, 12:58 AM
The Golden Boy at his best: When Art Aragon defeated the highly touted John L. Davis at Hollywood back in the early 50s he returned to his dressing room to find a bouquet of roses sent to him by another legendary fight figure,Baron Long, who had been in boxing since the late 19th century and had once teamed with Jim Jeffries to promote in Vernon, Ca. Long was also the first owner of the
LA Biltmore Hotel.
Another such gesture, in the form of a flattering "fan letter" came to Artie after another brilliant showing at Hollywood sent to him by noted screenwriter Borden Chase (of "Red River" fame).

Here's a conundrum in the life of the Golden Boy: After losing to Carmen Basilio in a monster of a promotion at Wrigley Field(1958) that groosed over $200,000 he made his next showing at smallish Fresno's arena, drawing with a veritable newcomer, young Frankie Bielma. Go figure.

hap

kikibalt
01-04-2011, 05:53 PM
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Boxing commis, Clayton Frye, Al Silvani, Nat Fleischer, Pone Kingpetch and Pascuel Perez.
In back wearing glasses is George Parnassus.

Los Angeles, Ca....1960

dongee
01-05-2011, 12:37 AM
The man is in the background in this photo but George Parnassus will always be remembered by those who knew him as a friend or colleague as one of the great boxing figures develooped in California.
The flyweight class had been all but dead and buried in the Golden State since the 1940s when Parnassus took a whale of a gamble to revive the division locally.
Inexplicably the 112 lb class that was an important part of western fisticufffing in the 20s and 30s died down by 1940, when only one flyweight headliner was active in the state, Alfredo Chavez, brother of featherweight Carlos Chavez
Alfredo had to seek bouts out of the continental USA to remain active.
Now this is in direct contrast to flyweight action that was commonplace in California during the earlier decades.

One of the better tourneys held in the state in 1927 featured a top flight crop of flyweights who battled through a three month elimination process at Hollywood Legion Stadium under the promotion of Matchmaker Tom Gallery. The sudden retirement of the reigning world champioon Fidel La Barba triggered the start of several tournaments to find a successor. Three tourneys were started simultaneously in California in early summer of 1927, but only Hollywood's was concluded with an interim champion, Johnny McCoy. Check out this list of worthies who came west to take part in the eliminations:Willie Davies, Tommy Hughes, Davey Adelman, Harry Goldstein, McCoy and for good measure an entry all the way from Singapore, Boy Walley.

Parnassus had not been a matchmaker long in 1960 when he dreamed up the Kingpetch vs Perez match. He would eventually feature flyweights in a blockbuster show at the LA Coliseum. Yhat was George Parnassus.

hap navarro

gregbeyer
01-05-2011, 02:37 PM
great photo. when i saw it all i could think of was what history this shot includes. great collection of boxing characters.

greg

kikibalt
01-05-2011, 03:16 PM
I remember been weighted in by Clayton Frye for the 1960 GG tourney in the old Penny Arcade building in downtown L.A....

dongee
01-05-2011, 06:20 PM
Thanks for the "heads up" Greg Beyer. I just mulled over the title of this thread and will abide by its meaning from here on out. Photos, videos, art, etc. etc.

My apologies, fellow posters.

hap navarro

Wing master
01-05-2011, 10:27 PM
Hap,
I hope you are not serious. I don't think anyone here does not appreciate your knowledge and I would really like to continue to read your comments.
Please keep them coming

Thanks
Randy

dongee
01-05-2011, 11:21 PM
Randy"

I meant that I would continue my windy contributions on the original History of California Boxing thread and post only graphics on this thread, which is wh0at I think Kikibalt had in mind when he started it. Thanks so much for your kind words, pal.
regards

hn

kikibalt
01-05-2011, 11:40 PM
Randy"

I meant that I would continue my windy contributions on the original History of California Boxing thread and post only graphics on this thread, which is wh0at I think Kikibalt had in mind when he started it. Thanks so much for your kind words, pal.
regards

hn
Hap, I agree with Randy that your comments are more then welcome here on this thread. A photo by its self is , well just a photo. Please don't stop commenting on what ever photos I post.

kikibalt
01-07-2011, 08:23 PM
Don Fraser Birthday Party

http://www.myboxingfans.com/2011/01/don-frasers-ko-birthday/

gregbeyer
01-11-2011, 01:38 PM
dear hap,

i was not suggesting that you should do anything other than what you have been doing here. your contributions are always appreciated and i am sorry for any misunderstanding and the fact i took so long to respond. i just read this.

tu amigo,

gregorio

dongee
01-11-2011, 03:15 PM
Once a champ. always a champ......

Thamk you. mi fino amigo Gregorio. I only took your post as a reminder that the importance of that thread was in the graphics, not necessarily in the text. No foul no harm, no big deal, but thanks again for clearing the air for me. Te estima deveras este peon.

gabriel

kikibalt
01-20-2011, 11:06 PM
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af118/kikibalt36/EXM-N-12622-0083.jpg

Paul Armstead vs Mauro Vasquez

Dan1213
01-24-2011, 05:37 PM
http://i17.tinypic.com/5yv0lc7.jpg

Frank, what years did Red Green compete? Is this Les (Red) Green?

kikibalt
01-24-2011, 07:12 PM
Frank, what years did Red Green compete? Is this Les (Red) Green?
Yes that's Les Green A.K.A. Red Green.
He fought from 1938 to 1945...

kikibalt
01-24-2011, 07:16 PM
http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a478/conniebalt/redgreen.jpg

Here's another photo of Red (Les) Green

Dan1213
01-24-2011, 07:40 PM
Yes that's Les Green A.K.A. Red Green.
He fought from 1938 to 1945...

Thanks! I thought that was him, but wanted to make sure.

Les Red Green
Global ID 49317
sex male
birth date 1919-10-12
division light welterweight
height 5′ 7″ / 170cm
alias The Signal Kid
country United States
residence Los Angeles, California, United States
birth place Sioux City, Iowa, United States
won 22 (KO 1) + lost 9 (KO 1) + drawn 7 = 38

kikibalt
01-26-2011, 01:01 PM
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af118/kikibalt36/Bolanos.jpg
Enrique Bolanos with wife Ruby

gregbeyer
01-26-2011, 02:59 PM
i never saw bolanos fight but used to see him attending the fights at the olympic all the time. he was a very nice man who was always happy to throw a nod to the fans or give a handshake.

i also remember thinking that his ex opponent john thomas never gave mando ramos very good marks on his score cards while he later reffed and judged because mando reminded john of enrique and the nitemares he caused him.:confused:

greg

kikibalt
01-26-2011, 03:19 PM
i never saw bolanos fight but used to see him attending the fights at the olympic all the time. he was a very nice man who was always happy to throw a nod to the fans or give a handshake.

i also remember thinking that his ex opponent john thomas never gave mando ramos very good marks on his score cards while he later reffed and judged because mando reminded john of enrique and the nitemares he caused him.:confused:

greg
Yup!!....LOL!!

gregbeyer
01-26-2011, 07:07 PM
oh so you agree huh frank ?

it was just a theory of mine. i was watching the fights with my dad many years ago and thomas was the ref. my dad mentioned then that thomas was a pretty good fighter in his day. i said really ? i did not know of his career. when i asked what happened to him ..... he said, enrique bolanos happened to him.

did you see their fights ?

greg

kikibalt
01-26-2011, 07:29 PM
oh so you agree huh frank ?

it was just a theory of mine. i was watching the fights with my dad many years ago and thomas was the ref. my dad mentioned then that thomas was a pretty good fighter in his day. i said really ? i did not know of his career. when i asked what happened to him ..... he said, enrique bolanos happened to him.

did you see their fights ?

greg
I wrote that tongue in cheek. No, I didn't see either of their two fights, they fought in either 1947 0r '48, I think!

kikibalt
02-08-2011, 08:55 PM
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af118/kikibalt36/z605.jpg

Mando Ramos & Allen Syers
1969

kikibalt
02-09-2011, 04:52 PM
http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a478/conniebalt/491px-Jerry_Moore2.jpg

Jerry Moore

http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a478/conniebalt/490px-Jerry_Moore.jpg

Wing master
02-09-2011, 11:52 PM
Does any of you have any idea where this picture might have been taken at? It was taken around the time Hank fought at the Olympic Auditorium in late 1935. The photo is in the Winkler collection, if that helps.

http://www.sports.nd.edu/exhibits/winkexhibit/Bath.710-2-79.jpg

Thanks guys.
Randy

kikibalt
02-10-2011, 02:10 PM
Does any of you have any idea where this picture might have been taken at? It was taken around the time Hank fought at the Olympic Auditorium in late 1935. The photo is in the Winkler collection, if that helps.

http://www.sports.nd.edu/exhibits/winkexhibit/Bath.710-2-79.jpg

Thanks guys.
Randy
Have no idea where this pic was shot at, it might be at the original Main Street Gym., but I couldn't say for sure...that gym burned down around 1951.

dongee
02-10-2011, 02:56 PM
Seems to me there were three major boxing gyms in LA at the time. The Main Street Gym, the Manhattan Gym in the Spring Arcade Building and the Ringsside Gym on 12th street between Broadwaay and Hill. The photo looks to be from the Rinside Gym, which was never crowded or even busy in those days and did not last very long in business.

hap

kikibalt
02-10-2011, 03:28 PM
Seems to me there were three major boxing gyms in LA at the time. The Main Street Gym, the Manhattan Gym in the Spring Arcade Building and the Ringsside Gym on 12th street between Broadwaay and Hill. The photo looks to be from the Rinside Gym, which was never crowded or even busy in those days and did not last very long in business.

hap
Thanks friend Hap....

dongee
02-10-2011, 03:51 PM
A bit or two on John Thomas, a fine boxixng master, reliable referee and all around nice guy. He had an older brother who boxed earlier, Clarence. John's two bouts with Bolanos were mini-classics in that he seemed to be leading early on but failed when he elected to trade with his heavy hitting foe. I was at ringside for both fights.
The one outdoors at Wrigley field was on occasion of my first date with my future wife, Jo (46 years). It is believed to have been for the state lightweight title, but in fact was advertised for the Pacific Coast Championship

Strangely, the very hot rematch was held indoors at the Olympic, a reversal of what usually happens with hot rematches. They went from a huge venue into the confines of the Olympic Auditorium. That turned out to be John's last fight. He retired at a very early age. The two kayo losses to Bolanos ae the only two such recorded against John Thomas, a bundle of class. personified.

hap
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dongee
02-10-2011, 06:04 PM
You are quite welcome Frankie. Just hope I am right about the photo.

hn

kikibalt
02-10-2011, 09:21 PM
http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a478/conniebalt/427px-Rudy_Garcia.jpg

Rudy Garcia
Former California Featherweight Champion
In this day and age Rudy would have been be a super star... :OhYes:

dongee
02-10-2011, 09:47 PM
Rudy Garcia was one of the hardest punching featherweights developed in California. He was managed by Lee Boren, who also stareted Artie Aragon. The buckle he is wearing here was awarded to him a Hollywood Legion Stadium where he won the state title. The gold plated piece was fashioned by Tom Ogilvie, who later became Post #43 Commander and had a musical instrument repair shop in the Legion building to the right of the main entrance on El Centro sreet.

hap

Wing master
02-10-2011, 10:41 PM
Thanks Hap and Frank.
I will look into the Ringside Gym.
You two guys knowledge is priceless.

Thanks again
Randy

kikibalt
02-10-2011, 11:24 PM
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af118/kikibalt36/476px-John_Thomas48.jpg

John Thomas
John refereed my last amateur fight, I never fought pro.

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af118/kikibalt36/512px-John_Thomas.jpg

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af118/kikibalt36/John_Thomas2.jpg

John Thomas with??

kikibalt
02-10-2011, 11:46 PM
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af118/kikibalt36/487px-Charley_Powell.jpg

Charlie Powell

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af118/kikibalt36/488px-Charley_Powell2.jpg

kikibalt
02-11-2011, 12:50 PM
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af118/kikibalt36/754px-HartPepDyer.jpg

Left to right: Tommy Hart (referee), Bill Schroeder, Willie Pep, unknown woman, Mushy Callahan & Braven Dyer Jr..

dongee
02-11-2011, 03:17 PM
About the Ringside Gym:

I liked the place, it was neat, clean, well equipped but lacked the dawing power somehow to bring in the mainstream battlers to train there. Hymie Caplan, who had both Lou Salica and Abe Feldman at the time, trained his boys there.
On one of my visits to the gym I struck up a conversation with a young, affable featherweight named Sal Hernandez. He was at Jefferson High School and boxing pro, I was at Fremont High goofing off. We seemed to hit it off well, and he told me he was one of two brothers boxing. Frankie Hern was his brother's fighting name. Sal was just a prelim kid at the time which leads to the upsshot of this little bit.
A few weeks later I was shocked when Sal was rushed into a main event at the Olympic against the highly feared Henry Armstrong. I never learned the details, or even the reason that fight was approved by the people in charge, but it remains in my memory as one of the worst mismatches of all time in our state of California. Naturallly, Henry disposed of the youngster in a couple of rounds. Bah humbug.

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Boxscribe
02-11-2011, 04:34 PM
Hap - while your brain is firing on all cylinders do you have any idea who the gentlement in this photo are?

I have Big Boy Hogue on the left then................?

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=501802425868&set=a.501802380868.274397.181878695868

dongee
02-11-2011, 05:44 PM
Boxscribe:

No idea at all, mainly because my eyesight has been letting me down for many months now. If I were to use the photo in a published work, I would simply crop the shot leaving the two fighters intact. I didn't even recognize Burley in the photo.....that's how bad my eyes have gotten. Sorry.

The mere thought of the twins facing Burley in ring combat is mind boggling to me. But i have no doubt that fights like that hastened the Hogues' exit from the limelight. Read the account of Shorty's bout with Charley in the midwest to get an idea of what I mean.

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Boxscribe
02-11-2011, 07:31 PM
Hey Hap- thanks for the feedback.

I think the fighter shaking hands with Big Boy is Larry Derrick (I have another photo from their fight, but Derrick is on the deck). I just wanted to see if anyone knew any names for sure.

You are right about the twins and Burley. Burley knocked Shorty cold in Minneapolis (the first - and possibly only - fighter to this). The result is listed as a TKO because the ref didn't even bother to count; Shorty was out for a while.

As you know, the twins had a habit of challenging the guys that beat the other, so Big Boy sought a fight with Burley after Charley stopped Shorty. The result was the same (a clean KO, but listed as a TKO) only a few rounds sooner in that instance.

I think the general concensus is that Shorty was the better of the two and there was always that sibling rivalry between them to prove who was the better (hence the challenge matches).

Would you say that was the case?

dongee
02-11-2011, 09:57 PM
Question......are you Harry Ottey?

I have always had a soft spot in my heart for those two boys since they retired so prematurely and so dramatically on a downward spiral. The two should have retired rich and famous instead of all but forgotten by their hundreds of fans. I thought they would hit it big when they came under the management of oldTom Jones, who had managed three world champs. But perhaps the kids had their own way in charting their boxing careers. Lordy how enormous those two would have been in today's boxing market place.

Good to hear from you.

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gregbeyer
02-11-2011, 10:45 PM
hello hap,

i was wondering if you have any recollection of the fight at legion stadium between freddie steele and jimmy casino. seemed a failed comeback attempt for the great steele.

thanx,

greg

Boxscribe
02-11-2011, 11:41 PM
Question......are you Harry Ottey?

I have always had a soft spot in my heart for those two boys since they retired so prematurely and so dramatically on a downward spiral. The two should have retired rich and famous instead of all but forgotten by their hundreds of fans. I thought they would hit it big when they came under the management of oldTom Jones, who had managed three world champs. But perhaps the kids had their own way in charting their boxing careers. Lordy how enormous those two would have been in today's boxing market place.

Good to hear from you.

hap navarro

Yes Hap, I am Harry Otty. The story of the Hogue twins is a very sad tale indeed. They had very short and bright careers as you know. I have researched their boxing careers from their amateur days (I think I know have complete amateur records for both - most definately for Shorty) right through their pro careers and for a good deal of stuff that went on in their life outside of boxing (military careers etc.). Should make for a great story/book if I can get past a few walls.

Anything you have on them would be a great help (anecdotes etc.).

I know it has been repeated a few times about how Charley Burley ruined a few fighters - in the case of Shorty Hogue I believe Charley definately started him on the slpppiery slope.

dongee
02-12-2011, 12:43 AM
hello hap,

i was wondering if you have any recollection of the fight at legion stadium between freddie steele and jimmy casino. seemed a failed comeback attempt for the great steele.

thanx,

greg

My all time favorite middleweight. bar none because I have accorded the same honor to Sugar Ray as a welterweight. I have no recollection of that fight except that it had been rumored that Freddie was still suffering from an earlier injury when he had his last few bouts. That may be true, but somehow, Steele had lost much of his poise after his beloved manager Dave Miller died.
His record is obviouslyh impressive, having lost only five times in more than 120 bouts, and three of those losses coming very; late in his career.

I sorta relived his reat moments viewing his performance in the film Story G.I. Joe where he does a solo bit that stays with one for hours later.
To see Freddie at his very best you must watch his total domination of a rising Gus Lesnevich at the Olympic in the late 1930s.
I would liken him to a speedier Billy Conn with deadly accurate power in either fist. Freddie Steele.

hap

kikibalt
02-12-2011, 02:59 PM
http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a478/conniebalt/IMG_0002_NEW.jpg

Rudy Garcia, standing on the right, with other members of the 1948
Los Angeles National Golden Glove Teams on their way to Chicago for
the national tournament.

kikibalt
02-12-2011, 05:37 PM
http://i1039.photobucket.com/albums/a478/conniebalt/182093_1805912316028_1486507040_1932635_2969126_n. jpg

gregbeyer
02-13-2011, 01:22 AM
My all time favorite middleweight. bar none because I have accorded the same honor to Sugar Ray as a welterweight. I have no recollection of that fight except that it had been rumored that Freddie was still suffering from an earlier injury when he had his last few bouts. That may be true, but somehow, Steele had lost much of his poise after his beloved manager Dave Miller died.
His record is obviouslyh impressive, having lost only five times in more than 120 bouts, and three of those losses coming very; late in his career.

I sorta relived his reat moments viewing his performance in the film Story G.I. Joe where he does a solo bit that stays with one for hours later.
To see Freddie at his very best you must watch his total domination of a rising Gus Lesnevich at the Olympic in the late 1930s.
I would liken him to a speedier Billy Conn with deadly accurate power in either fist. Freddie Steele.

hap

thank you hap,

yes he had a great record and does not get enough credit in all time listings. there is a bowling alley here in bellingham (where freddie had his first few pro bouts as a 100 pounder two against jimmy britt whom had a great record himself) that once had a statue of him. i keep meaning to try and run down what happened to it. he also owned a pub not far from here after he retired from boxing as well as hollywood.

i have seen the lesnevich fight and he is frightening in his execution of such a good fighter as gus.

i believe the injury was a broken sternum which made lifting his arms in defense difficult and lead to his shocking one round KO loss to all hostack.

would have loved to have seen more of freddie steele.

greg

kikibalt
02-13-2011, 12:17 PM
Not Boxing

Whittier Blvd, E.L.A

Memories of A Lost Boulevard; Ghosts of the Eastside

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af118/kikibalt36/old-whittier-bl.jpg

By Aidesmadre

The character of the E.L.A. that I knew growing up is long gone. Everything changes, evolves.
Those who lived there before me surely must have cherished their own “good old days” as much as I do mine. And twenty years from now, others will do the same.
We are beings that exist in that sliver of time between our past and future. Yet, if we were to somehow erase every memory from the past out of our minds, who would we be? The sum of our experiences, the memories of what we have lived before, are essentially the totality of who we are at this moment. So have my experiences and present memories of growing up in E.L.A. formed this person that I am today. E.L.A. is in my DNA.
It now brings me joy to reminisce, because I can relive those times. Many thanks to all of you out there who join me on these little journeys to memoryland. So let’s take another trip….

dongee
02-13-2011, 04:43 PM
Greg:

There were actually two Jimmy Britts, the Californiana and he Northwesterner, who came along later. Our local guy eventually convinced the other felldow to stop ;using the name.

Steele was always a cut above most great middles because of his great fluidity, his balance and the ease with which he executed boxxing's more difficult moves.
His very first pro loss was really a joke. He was talked into a four round bout at the Olympic in 1932 when the club was tryng to return their programs to the old four round days. Freddie was outscrambled by Tommy Herman, a fellow he whipped in a return six rounder shortly afterwards. The curse of the short bout also cost Yg. Peter Jackson when he was outpointed by Don Fraser, Steele's stablemate on one of those cards. In a longer rematch, Jackson stopped Fraser easily.
I never understood the reasoning, but as late as the 1950s there were advocates in California boxing who longed for the old four round days.
Bah humbug.

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gregbeyer
02-14-2011, 04:21 AM
Greg:

There were actually two Jimmy Britts, the Californiana and he Northwesterner, who came along later. Our local guy eventually convinced the other felldow to stop ;using the name.

Steele was always a cut above most great middles because of his great fluidity, his balance and the ease with which he executed boxxing's more difficult moves.
His very first pro loss was really a joke. He was talked into a four round bout at the Olympic in 1932 when the club was tryng to return their programs to the old four round days. Freddie was outscrambled by Tommy Herman, a fellow he whipped in a return six rounder shortly afterwards. The curse of the short bout also cost Yg. Peter Jackson when he was outpointed by Don Fraser, Steele's stablemate on one of those cards. In a longer rematch, Jackson stopped Fraser easily.
I never understood the reasoning, but as late as the 1950s there were advocates in California boxing who longed for the old four round days.
Bah humbug.

hap navarro

well, now i am confused. according to boxrec the jimmy britt that faced freddie stelle in his first 2 pro fights was from bellingham washington and seemingly went 76 fights never being KO'D.

on looking for the other jimmy britt i found about a dozen or so.

funny that people longed for four rounders. these days i find myself long for 15. of course putting a couple of top performers in a 4 rounder might really produce some fireworks.

greg

dongee
02-14-2011, 02:52 PM
Greg:

The Britt that complained about the Bellingham Britt using the name was the San Fancisco Britt who had fought McGovern, Gans, Nelson, etc. etc.

hap

gregbeyer
02-14-2011, 06:21 PM
ahh,

thank you hap.

boxrec has the san francisco jimmy britt has having had only 23 fights which goes to show how incomplete boxrec still is. it would be hard to imagine with the names on his resume that he did not have a lot more fights than that.

still, i get a kick out of perusing records. some interesting facts emerge. i was surprised for instance that mando ramos and willie pep had a common opponent in one ray coleman. if nothing else ray has that. maxie rosenblooms record also amazes me. the ammount of rounds and the traveling he did is impressive.

lot of fun and it jogs the strangest things from my memory. while going over jerry quarry's record the other day i was struck by the card at the olympic where a fought scrap iron johnson the second time. the semi that night was between pajaro corona and lobito montoya. what i remembered about that fight was a voice at the back of the arena that yelled 3-4 times a round "stop thee fight .... lobito is killeeeng heem". i still laugh thinking about that guy and wonder who he was. i always consider that my "give it to heem colima" moment in time.

ah well, memories. what else do we have my friend ?

greg

dongee
02-14-2011, 07:21 PM
Greg:

Maxie was the first fighter to receive more than scale as payment for a prelim bout when he arrived in California after the new boxing law of 1925 took effect. He got $400 for his first showing. In the mid 1930s Gus Wilson's young wildcat Wally Hally received $500 for a prelim bout at the Hollywood Legion,

And you are right about our Jimmy Britt, who is still almost unknown in spite of his stature among the early idols in this state.
I also have several unrecorded bouts for Bobby Pacho, early in his career that I have not learned yet how to get into his BoxRec spot.......can you help?

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dongee
02-14-2011, 07:36 PM
Oh yes, Greg:

On the subject of that booming voice from upstairs at the Olympic.....we had one fellow, a heavy set fan who loved to yell out "Referee, stop that bloody battle". always during a slow fight at the Olympic.

In my day we had Merle, a Legion regular customer who always yelled out "Too Late" as the round came to an end. But the never fail experience at the Olympic always occurred during a dull bout when someone would inflate a condom and float it around the balcony customers for an hour. Fight fans.

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kikibalt
02-14-2011, 08:08 PM
Oh yes, Greg:

On the subject of that booming voice from upstairs at the Olympic.....we had one fellow, a heavy set fan who loved to yell out "Referee, stop that bloody battle". always during a slow fight at the Olympic.

In my day we had Merle, a Legion regular customer who always yelled out "Too Late" as the round came to an end. But the never fail experience at the Olympic always occurred during a dull bout when someone would inflate a condom and float it around the balcony customers for an hour. Fight fans.

hap navarro
Hap, I remember the inflate condom, the lady's underwear, and the rolls of toilet paper flying around in the Olympic's balcony back in the early '50's.

gregbeyer
02-14-2011, 08:43 PM
Hap, I remember the inflate condom, the lady's underwear, and the rolls of toilet paper flying around in the Olympic's balcony back in the early '50's.

let it not be said we are not a classy lot.

hap,

there are folks here that help keep the boxrec ledger. right now who it is escapes my suddenly addled mind. i hope they read these posts of ours and check in.

my hat goes off to the boxrec people. seems such an insurmountable task. you for one know how many fights there have been. to catalogue them is a lot of work.

you know i think i will start a thread on that and see what turns up.

greg

dongee
02-14-2011, 08:52 PM
You are right Frank, I had forgotten about the toilet paper but I do not thinkk I ever saw the lady's panties floating around the balcony. People were actually bored for a few minutes and that is why all of that got started.

The worst nights at the old Olympic were when the management issued coupons that got you into the balcony for a lousy quarter service charge. I remember George Parnassus leading the campaign among the managers to do away with the lousy cut rate admission price.

The club had its reasons, of course, because the Olympic was enormous and their shows were much more expensive than ours at the Legion because of our fraternal connotation......their ushers were all union scale, ours were all Legionaires, members of the Post who worked for a nominal fee each week, as did the band members and the other attendants.

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gregbeyer
02-14-2011, 08:55 PM
o.k hap,

i cast our line in the water. "BOXREC additions" in the old timers section. hopefully some one will grab the bait and you can give bobby his just due.

in one of these threads there is a photo of rick farris in the ring with a guy that does not show up on his record. so the need is still there to get these boys the credit they deserve.

greg

kikibalt
02-15-2011, 08:56 AM
http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af118/kikibalt36/JeffriesGang43.jpg

14 July 1943 (Hollywood Legion Stadium, Los Angeles CA): (from left) James J. Jeffries, Ceferino Garcia,
Mushy Callahan, Jimmy McLarnin, Jack Root, Baby Arizmendi, Willie Ritchie and Johnny Indrisano. Joe Lynch
is at the microphone.

kikibalt
02-15-2011, 09:06 AM
Guys, here's a little story I wrote, I'm not much of a writer, so bear with me.

"Going To The Fights....1951

By Frank Baltazar

Eddie Gomez was watching a boxing match on a nineteen inch TV when his dad, Rudy, came in the house and told Eddie.
“Eddie, look what I have here”
“Pops, did you get some tickets for the title fight?”
Eddie had been bugging his pop to take him to see the Art Argon vs Jimmy Carter lightweight title fight at the Olympic Auditorium for some time, his pop thought that Eddie; been twelve years old was to young to go to the fights.
“Yes, Eddie, I bought four tickets, your uncles, Tony and Ray, will be going with us. Now I hope your mom doesn't get mad at me, she too thinks you are to young to go to the fights”.
Eddie's mom, Lupe, was not too crazy to see Eddie going to the fights, but she did agree with Rudy; that their son would be disappointed if he was not allowed to go with his pop and uncles, so she gave her okay for Eddie to go.

Eddie couldn't wait to find his best friend, Cheno Diaz, to tell him the good news. He found Cheno tending his two cows and one goat at a nearby pasture.
“Cheno, my pops is taking me to see the Aragon and Carter title fight”,
"Gee Eddie, you are lucky, I wish I could go”.
“I'll ask my pop if he can get another ticket for you. Cheno, you think your mom and pops would let you go?”.
“I'll ask them” said Cheno.,
Eddie ask his pop if he could get a ticket for Cheno.
“Yes, I'm sure I can get one, Eddie, you tell Cheno, that if his mom and pop say its okay for him to go; we'll take him with us”.
Next day in school, Eddie told Cheno the good news.
“Cheno, my pops said that he'll get you a ticket if your mom and pop say that's its okay for you to go”.
“Eddie, mom and pop said I could go as long as your father was going, they trust your father, but not your uncle Ray, they say he is crazy, that he himself will get into a fight at the fights”.
“Yeah, uncle Ray is a bit wild, especially when he is drinking beer, but pops won't let him drink too much, he'll be okay”.

Two weeks later, they all piled into Rudy's 1946 Dodge and headed west on Washington Boulevard. Eddie and Cheno were so excited that they couldn't sit still and it was starting to bug uncle Ray.
“If you kids don't sit still, we are going to stop and drop you off here; and you are going to have to wait for us to pick you up after the fights” said uncle Ray.
“Leave them alone Ray, they are just excited to be going to the fights, after all, its their first time to see boxing live. You remember when you went for the first time and you got all crazy on us?, wanting to fight everybody there” said uncle Tony.
“Yeah, but I was drunk; and let me remind you that I was doing okay until that big guy cold-cock me and knocked me on my ass” uncle Ray laughed.

The area was so pack that they had to park 3 blocks away. Eddie and Cheno were shadow boxing as they walked up 18th Avenue.
“Hey Eddie, Cheno, you two want to become fighters, because if you do, I'll train you guys” said uncle Ray.
“Ray, what the hell do you know about training fighters? asked Rudy.
“Hey, Rudy, I have fighting experience”
“Yes, you do but, its street fighting experience, an I don't think you ever won a fight”
“At least I've never been ko, always finish on my feet” laughed Ray.

As the group approached the front entrance of the Olympic, they started seeing movie and boxing celebrities hanging around the sidewalk of Grand Avenue.
“Cheno! There's John Wayne and Pedro Armendariz” said the excitable Eddie
“And over there is Rosemary Cooney and her husband Jose Ferrer” said uncle Tony
“I see Tommy Campbell, Frankie Muche, Bob Murphy, Enrique Bolanos and Freddie Babe Herman over there talking to two men” said Cheno
“That's Cal Eaton and Babe McCoy they are talking too, they are probably talking about upcoming fights” said Rudy
Before entering the Olympic, they all bought the Knockout program from Speedy Dado. Eddie and Cheno started getting autographs on their programs to show their friends in school the next day.

They found their sits in the second to last roll in the peanut gallery. No sooner had they sat down when rolls of toilet paper started flying around, soon some ladies underwear were flying by. Eddie and Cheno started making paper plane and would fly them down to the ring.
“This is fun, Eddie, thanks for bringing me” said Cheno
“Thank my pop, Cheno, he is the one who bought your ticket”

The fighters for the first fight came in the ring. Rudy, Tony and Ray started betting on the fights, they would bet one dollar on the white or black corner, what ever fighter went to the corner they had, that was their bet.
The first fight was won by Al Galindo over Bobby Brewer, Rudy and Tony won a dollar each, Ray lost a dollar.
Second fight was between Joey Gurrola and Sammy Figueroa.
“Cheno, see that big guy in Figueroa's corner? That's big Jake Horn, he's a great trainer” said Eddie
The fight ended in a draw.
“Guess it didn't help Figueroa having Jake Horn in the corner, did it, Eddie? Said Cheno, as he threw a roll of toilet paper.
“He didn't lose did he?” said Eddie
“Well no, he didn't”
.
After a couple of more fights it was time for the main event, Art Aragon and Jimmy Carter would be coming into the ring soon.

Aragon looking weak is the first to come into the ring.
“Aragon is going to lose” said Eddie
“How do you know? Asked uncle Ray.
“Look how pale he looks, I read in the Mirror that he was having trouble making '35” said Eddie.
Carter comes into the ring looking great. After both fighters have been gloved in the ring they are introduce by Jimmy Lennon , referee Mushy Callahan calls the fighters to the center of the ring for their instructions.
The fight started fairly even for the first four rounds, from the fifth round on it was all Carter who won an easy 15 round unanimous decision.
Right after the fight ended uncle Ray wanted to leave.
'Okay guys, our guy lost; so lets get out of here”
“No! We have to stay and watch Keeny Teran fight Bobby Garza, they are fighting a six rounder” said Eddie.
“Ray, Keeny is the toast of the town, we have to stay and watch him fight” said uncle Tony
They stayed and watch Keeny win a unanimous decision.

On the way home Uncle Ray asked Eddie and Cheno if they wanted to fight.
“Guys, if you want to fight, I'll train you, after you train for a couple of months; I'll take you to the downtown CYO where Johnny Flores run the boxing program, I'm sure we can get you some sparring. Johnny is my friend and he'll help us out.
“Ray, you don't even know Johnny Flores” said Rudy
“Well maybe not, but I know where the CYO is at” laughed uncle Ray

Next day at school Eddie and Cheno were the toast of the school as they were holding court with their friends.
“You should have seen Aragon land that left hook of his” said Cheno as he threw a left hook.
“To bad he didn't landed it enough” said Eddie
“He was too weak from making weight”
“He was” agree Eddie
“But you should have seen that little Keeny Teran” Eddie and Cheno said in unity.
“Guys, Cheno and I are going to start training next week, my uncle Ray is going to train us” said Eddie

kikibalt
02-15-2011, 09:17 AM
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May 1949 (Los Angeles CA): From left: Gorilla Jones, Benny Whitman, Morris Rose, and Duke Holloway

kikibalt
02-15-2011, 09:54 AM
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Art Aragon on the right, just don't know who the opponent is....

kikibalt
02-15-2011, 10:47 AM
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Front row (left to right): Braven Dyer (journalist), Tom Sharkey, unknown, Tommy Ryan, Mushy Callahan, unknown, James J. Jeffries, & Sheriff Eugene Biscaluiz.

Back row (from left): Unknown, Everett L. Sanders (Commissioner), Announcer Dan Tobey, Al Santoro (journalist), & Barney Oldfield (race car driver & boxing fan).

dongee
02-15-2011, 06:53 PM
Your story is a "return to fight night at the Olympic" Frank and the photos are priceless. The story has the feel of fight night, for sure.

I got a kick out of seeing my old friend JoeLynch, one of the real unsung heroes of LA's boxng past. He had more guts than any other promoter I ever knew when he took on the Olympic and Legion Stadium brass and got a license to put on some good shows outdoors in the early 1940s.

Joe first crashed the local spsorts scene with western rodeos and jitterbug contests at the Memorial Coliseum before becoming a matchmaker at the Olympic for just a few weeks. One of his programs there was featured by a title bout between Richie Lemos and Pittsbirg Jackie Wilson, and outdoors one of his biggies was Joyce and Armstrong. The last time we spoke Joe Lynch came to the Legion Stadium driving a 1932 Model A roadster in near mint condition. That was Joe Lynch.
One of your photos also shows my favorite all time athletic commissioner Everett Sanders. What a job he did during his stay on that board.

hap navarro

kikibalt
02-15-2011, 07:18 PM
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BoxofDaylight
02-15-2011, 07:53 PM
o.k hap,

i cast our line in the water. "BOXREC additions" in the old timers section. hopefully some one will grab the bait and you can give bobby his just due.

in one of these threads there is a photo of rick farris in the ring with a guy that does not show up on his record. so the need is still there to get these boys the credit they deserve.

greg
Yes, Greg & Hap. You can either post the bouts in the BoxRec Forum , preferably in the Records Section (http://boxrec.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=bdaeb02ffa8ae6b93e6d977eef5e39be). I'd also bet that Matt wouldn't mind helping out. He can be reached at Matt@boxrec.com

Ric (BoxRec Editor)

gregbeyer
02-15-2011, 11:41 PM
Yes, Greg & Hap. You can either post the bouts in the BoxRec Forum , preferably in the Records Section (http://boxrec.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=bdaeb02ffa8ae6b93e6d977eef5e39be). I'd also bet that Matt wouldn't mind helping out. He can be reached at Matt@boxrec.com

Ric (BoxRec Editor)

thank you very much.

greg

kikibalt
02-16-2011, 09:33 AM
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kikibalt
02-16-2011, 09:36 AM
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Johnny Smith

kikibalt
02-16-2011, 04:10 PM
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April 15, 1950 (Jeffries Residence, Burbank CA): Tom Sharkey, Everett L. Sanders, Jim Thorpe, and James J. Jeffries.

kikibalt
02-16-2011, 04:11 PM
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Jimmy McLarnin (left) & Young Corbett III (right center): June 1978 (Fresno CA)

kikibalt
02-16-2011, 05:56 PM
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Andy Russell & Eli Galinda: circa 1940

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OSKEDI8Q4Y

Besame Mucho

Andy Russell

kikibalt
02-16-2011, 06:02 PM
Andy Russell (singer)
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Andy Russell (September 16, 1919-April 16, 1992) was an American popular vocalist, specializing in traditional pop and Latin music.

He was born Andrés Rabago Pérez in the Boyle Heights area of East Los Angeles. He was one of ten children (eight boys, two girls) born to parents who were Mexican immigrants of Spanish descent. Already as a teenager he had begun to perform as a vocalist and drummer with a local band headed by Don Ramon Cruz. In the early forties he Anglicized his name (Andy was obvious, but "Russell" was after the singer Russ Columbo). He became vocalist and drummer with the bands of Johnny Richards, Gus Arnheim, Sonny Dunham, and Alvino Rey. By 1944, he had become well enough regarded a pop vocalist to be featured on radio, and in the next year had his Old Gold Show. He also signed on with Capitol Records.[1]

His first charted hit was "Bésame Mucho" (Capitol #149, 1944). The same year he had his biggest hit, which became his signature tune, "Amor" (Capitol #156, with the flip side "The Day After Forever") from the film "Broadway Rhythm". He had two more hits that year: "What a Difference a Day Made" (Capitol #167, paired with "Don't You Notice Anything New?") and "I Dream of You"/"Magic Is Moonlight" (Capitol #175). He had another big hit in 1946 with "I Can't Begin to Tell You" (Capitol #221) from the film "The Dolly Sisters." This became the fourth top ten seller in the country for Russell in less than two years and the big time was calling. The next big hit came later in 1946: a two-sided hit with "Laughing on the Outside" and "They Say It's Wonderful" (from the Broadway show Annie Get Your Gun) (Capitol #252). His next hit was "Pretending" (Capitol #271, backed with "Who Do You Love") was another top-ten seller. He was also invited to Hollywood and screen tested for motion pictures. In 1946 he appeared in The Stork Club and Breakfast In Hollywood. He was on the soundtrack of Walt Disney's Make Mine Music, and appeared in the picture Copacabana the next year.[2]

In 1946, the people running the pop music radio program Your Hit Parade asked him to take the place of Frank Sinatra (Sinatra returned in 1947). This led to increased popularity for the singer.

Russell appeared in the new medium, television, in the early 1950s on Your Show of Shows with Sid Caesar on NBC, but continued to record, though less frequently. By 1952, Russell's hits had stopped coming, so Capitol Records lost interest in him as a hit making pop star. Especially, as the rock 'n roll age was beginning to dawn, Capitol (like the other major labels) began to look on with negative feeling. Russell realized at this point in time that was still quite popular in Mexico, so he began to spend time there performing for his fans. He occasionally recorded for RCA Victor Records in the mid-1950s.

In the late-1950s Russell moved to Mexico City, and later to Argentina. In the latter country, he had a successful television variety show that ran for seven years. El Show de IKA was sponsored by the nation's largest automaker, Industrias Kaiser Argentina (IKA).[3] A Jeep was driven on the stage during every performance with dancers as well as a 50-piece orchestra and choir accompaning Russell.[3] It was the most expensive TV show produced in that country and the first to use cameras mounted high above the stage.[3]

In the mid-1960s, he moved back to the United States for a time and went back to Capitol, making a few LP albums. He also made some LPs for the Argentine market that were well received. Though he continued to appear and perform, by the mid-eighties he was generally forgotten. Exceptions to this rule were his 1967 Capitol singles "It's Such a Pretty World Today" and "I'm Still Not Through Missing You", which achieved top ten status on Billboard's Easy Listening chart.

He died in Sun City, Arizona. He was buried in the Loma Vista Memorial Park in Fullerton, California.[4]

kikibalt
02-16-2011, 07:56 PM
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Left to right: Auto racer Barney Oldfield, Speedy Dado & James J. Jeffries

kikibalt
02-17-2011, 11:32 AM
The Chavez Boys

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Carlos & Alfredo

Both boys went on to be top ten fighters in the late '40's-early '50's.