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Jack Dempsey and the All-Time Greats
By Eric Jorgensen
Boxing Historian


When Jack Dempsey flashed out of America's wild west and into its sporting conscience in the late teens, no one had ever seen anything like him. He combined the right hand of John L. Sullivan, the left hand of Jim Jeffries, the speed of Jim Corbett, the cunning of Bob Fitzsimmons and the ferocity of Stanley Ketchel. He was almost instantly acclaimed the greatest fighter of all-time and remained the consensus selection in that regard well into the 1960s, when those who saw him fight began dying out. (In the Associated Press Mid-Century Poll conducted in 1950, for example, Dempsey received 251 votes as history's number 1 fighter, pound-for-pound; distant runner-up Joe Louis received only 104 votes and 3rd choice Henry Armstrong only 16.) To me, Dempsey remains unique, and he is still the all-time pound-for-pound champion. Nor does he rank much lower, if at all, as a heavyweight.

Old-Timers vs Moderns

These days, one reads a lot about how the old-time heavyweights were too small and too primitive stylistically to compete with their "modern" counterparts. I submit, however, that the foregoing grossly oversimplifies the analyses. While it is certainly true that Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Gene Tunney, Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, and most heavyweights of the pre-Sonny Liston era, would have conceded a lot of weight were they campaigning today, it is also true that ability can overcome weight. For a variety of reasons, it seems to me that the old-time fighters were superior pound-for-pound to today's fighters such that the best of them could have more than held their own against their bigger successors.

For one thing, boxing was far more popular in the old days than it is now. More athletes were competing, fight clubs flourished, and, perhaps most importantly, there were fewer divisions and fewer champions. Nowadays, football, basketball, tennis, and other, safer sports attract the athletic talent, so overall competition quality has declined in the ring. Thus, the champions of old had to climb a higher mountain than the champions of today have to climb.

Moreover, the old-time fighters had far more fights in their careers, as a rule, than do their modern counterparts (for many reasons, primarily economic). Thus, those fighters became truly skilled and
seasoned while still at their physical peaks. Dempsey, for example, had 60 or 70 professional fights (at least) by the time he won the title at age 24. Thus, he had a career's-worth of experience and his
in-prime body at the same time. These days, a fighter can become a millionaire after 20-30 fights, or fewer, and so often loses some of his ambition. Thus, he slips into semi-retirement, fighting once a
year or so, without ever learning some of the finer skills mastered by the busier fighters of legend. Mike Tyson and Riddick Bowe are perfect examples of this. Both began losing strength and speed to age while they still had a lot to learn.

Nor have training techniques changed all that much. Boxers were way ahead of the times in recognizing the value of cardio-vascular conditioning (even John L. Sullivan skipped rope and did roadwork). Conversely (and bizarrely), they have been among the last to abandon old superstitions concerning weight-training. Angelo Dundee still thinks lifting makes a fighter "musclebound" (i.e., slow and clumsy). Thus, boxers have by and large failed to benefit from modern training methods the way other athletes have.

Proponents of the modern boxer often respond to arguments like the ones I've just set forth with comments along the lines of: Awell, you can theorize all you want, but all I have to do is take one look at the films to know Jack Johnson wouldn't have lasted 15 seconds with Mike Tyson. But, films can be deceiving. Though the old-timers may appear "awkward" on film (at least sometimes), the careful analyst must reason his way beyond mere appearances. He should think of the silent film era movies he has seen. The movements of the actors appear disjointed and clumsy -- almost cartoonish. They appear grossly uncoordinated and inept when performing even the most rudimentary physical feats. Yet, would anyone conclude that Clint Eastwood walks more skillfully than Charlie Chaplin walked? Of course not; to do so would belie all common sense. The difference, then, is not in the actor but in the quality (primarily the speed) of the film capturing the act.

Jack Dempsey In Particular

With respect to Dempsey, there is an additional "biasing factor" relating to films. The film clip most people see is the second half of his first round against Jess Willard, when Dempsey had Willard reeling around the ring and ready to go. Yes, he looks wild, perhaps even "crude", as The Ring's editor-n-chief Nigel Collins contends, but pretty much every fighter looks that way in such circumstances. Anyone troubling himself to view the second and third rounds of that fight, when Dempsey was catching his breath after his premature victory celebration following his apparent 1-round win had left him a bit winded, would have to concede that Dempsey appears highly skillful
bouncing nimbly beyond Willard's reach, deftly slipping punches, etc.

In fact, Dempsey was an extremely skilled and versatile fighter all around, more along the lines of a heavyweight Roberto Duran than a prehistoric version of Marciano and Frazier (as many today seem to believe). He had the same granite jaw, remarkable stamina, and indomitable will that Marciano and Frazier had, but was quicker, a much better boxer, and, consequently, much harder to hit than either one of them. Also, he neither cut like Marciano nor swelled like Frazier. Finally, whereas Marciano and Frazier tended to wear their opponents down over the course of a fight, Dempsey had one-punch power in both hands (indeed, he was one of the very few fighters in heavyweight history who hit equally hard from each side). He demolished big, modern-sized heavyweights (Willard, Carl Morris, Fred Fulton, and Luis Firpo, among others) in record time. And, whatever their merits as overall fighters (and I submit that they have been underappreciated by boxing historians), those fighters were tough and strong, and these fights demonstrate that Dempsey's power would have proven effective against today's heavyweights. Dempsey possessed an extraordinary combination of skills which allowed him to handle any style he encountered.

Dempsey is often criticized for avoiding Harry Wills (as well he should be), but the fact is that very few experts of the day thought Wills would give Dempsey a run for his money. Indeed, Dempsey
regularly destroyed the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th best black fighters of the day (George Godfrey, Big Bill Tate, and Larry Gaines) in sparring sessions, and Wills was not much better than any of them, if at all. At bottom, Dempsey was just so much better than any other fighter of the day that no one particularly cared against whom he defended. Though Wills unquestionably deserved a shot at the title, he wouldn't have lasted 5 rounds.

Dempsey vs The All-Time Greats

There are only a few champions of any era whom I consider worthy to be compared with Dempsey. In chronological order, they are: Jim Jeffries, Jack Johnson, Gene Tunney, Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, Sonny Liston, Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, and Larry Holmes. I will
also discuss my views on how Dempsey compares with Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield, since those two get a lot of attention from sportswriters today.

Dempsey vs Jeffries: These days, Jeffries is the forgotten man of heavyweight greats. However, those who saw him fight swore he was an awesome figure: powerful (particularly, though not exclusively, with the left), durable (indestructible?), virtually tireless, defensively adept, and underrated in terms of speed. Tex Rickard, who saw Johnson, Dempsey, and Tunney at their best, always picked Jeff as the greatest, as did Dan Morgan, John D. McCallum, and many other boxing experts during the course of the last century.

Great as Jeffries was, though, I do not think he could have defeated Dempsey. I feel that Dempsey would have proven too quick for Jeffries to pick off at long range or to keep on the end of the jab. At close range, I do not think Jeffries could have handled a fighter who hit as hard as he did, but whose hands were much faster than his were. I think Dempsey would have swarmed all over Jeffries (just as Tom Sharkey did), landing heavily and often. I disagree with the classic argument advanced by Jeffries proponents that, even though Jeff would likely have taken a beating in the early going, he would have survived it and gotten Dempsey after Dempsey had tired. Again, Jack could box when he had to, and he did have sense enough to pace himself when an early kayo was not going to happen (as he did against Bill Brennan, Tommy Gibbons, Billy Miske the 1st time, and Morris the 1st time); there is no question in my mind that Dempsey would have had plenty left at the end. This is not to suggest that Dempsey would not have experienced some rough moments, but, ultimately, he would have ground Jeffries down. The only question is whether Jeff could have hung in there long enough to hear the final bell. Close, but I doubt it.

Result: Dempsey TKO14 over Jeffries

Dempsey vs Johnson: Experts down through the ages have lauded Johnson's defensive ability, and I'm not going to argue with that assessment here. Further, that Johnson was rated as the greatest by
the likes of Nat Fleischer and Stanley Weston carries a fair amount of weight with me. Certainly, he had superb reflexes, a terrific all-purpose right hand (straight right, right cross, right uppercut), textbook left jab, nimble feet, and excellent stamina.

However, Johnson did have one glaring weakness in his (in)ability to withstand punishment, as evidenced by his knockout losses to over-the-hill middleweight Joe Choynski (from a body blow) and to third-rater John "Klondike" Haynes, and by the knockdown he suffered against middleweight Stanley Ketchel. Unfortunately for Johnson, this is the worst possible weakness to have when competing against someone as fast and hard-hitting as Dempsey was. For all his speed and defensive technique, I simply cannot envision Johnson avoiding Dempsey completely for an entire fight (don't forget that even ponderous Marvin Hart was able to connect eventually). As one commentator put it, Dempsey hurt everyone he ever hit, and he hit everyone he ever fought -- including Tunney. Nor was Johnson a big enough hitter himself to simply blow Dempsey out of the ring before getting hit in the first place (again, witness the Hart fight). Sooner or later, after Dempsey's legendary body attack had taken some of the spring out of Johnson's legs, Dempsey would have started nailing Johnson, much in the way Frazier started nailing Ali in 1971. However, Dempsey hit harder than Frazier did, and could do it with either hand, and, again, Johnson did not take remotely the punch that Ali took.

Result: Dempsey KO8 over Johnson

Dempsey vs Tunney: I regard Tunney as a souped-up version of Jim Corbett: every bit as fast, probably an even better boxer (he had more fights and, overall, fought rougher opponents), a far better puncher (who threw every punch in the book), and much more durable (I think Tunney had one of the greatest chins of all-time -- never knocked out, knocked down only by Dempsey -- and his stamina was amazing).

That having been said, though, I have to favor an in-prime Dempsey to catch Tunney based on how close the past-prime Dempsey came to catching him. Unlike Louis and Marciano, Dempsey had quick feet, and so was not overly troubled by "speedy boxers", as his wins over the likes of Miske, Gibbons, Gunboat Smith, and Georges Carpentier attest. [Willie Meehan did give him trouble, but those fights were only 4-rounders (Meehan would not have survived 10) and Dempsey was arguably robbed in those two "losses" anyway (he was absolutely robbed in the two "draws").] The films of the Dempsey-Tunney fights show me that Tunney won on superior reflexes more than anything else -- an advantage I don't think he would have enjoyed to anywhere near the same extent (if, indeed, he enjoyed it at all) against the Dempsey who demolished Fulton and Willard. The way I see it, that Dempsey would have landed to the body early and to the head late, and even the great
Fighting Marine would have fallen.

Result: Dempsey KO12 over Tunney

Dempsey vs Louis: This fight would have been very close. Mobility (Louis's weakness) would not have been an issue since both fighters would have been moving forward. Louis's hands may have been even quicker (if only barely) than Dempsey's, so he may have been the first to land. As hard as Louis hit, that might have been the deciding factor, particularly considering that Louis may have been the only heavyweight in history who really did throw every single punch in the book perfectly.

However, Louis was never comfortable against fighters who fought from a crouch, he did not have the best chin, and he was vulnerable to right hands. Dempsey fought from a crouch and his right was a lot better than Max Schmeling's. I suspect Dempsey would have stayed upright long enough to have caught Louis at some point or another, particularly if the fight turned into a brawl, and then taken him on out of there. I wouldn't put any money on the outcome, though; it could easily have gone the other way.

Result: Dempsey KO9 over Louis.

Dempsey vs Marciano: Marciano was a true warrior and an indisputably great fighter. His inhuman stamina allowed him to hurl really hard punches at an incredible rate (in terms of volume, if not speed). Though his wildness meant it usually took him a while to find the range, he always did find it, and there's no denying the guy could hit.

Still, if there is one great whom I am convinced Dempsey could have beaten every night of the week, it's Marciano. Basically, everything Rocky could do, Jack could do better. Specifically, if you took Marciano as a baseline, juiced up his right hand a bit and his left hand a lot, tightened his defense, doubled his reflexes, and gave him skin that didn't cut, then you'd have Dempsey. Dempsey and Marciano would have collided at center ring, whereupon Marciano would have started missing and Dempsey would have started landing. Very quickly, Marciano would have busted up and blacked out. Fundamentally, if Walcott and Moore could hurt Marciano, then Dempsey could have hurt him severely; and if Dempsey could survive Firpo, then he could have survived someone who took 9 rounds to polish off Don Cockell. A furious fight, but a short one.

Result: Dempsey TKO4 over Marciano

Dempsey vs Liston: Liston would have been tough; he was a more skilled, if less powerful, version of Foreman, and his straight left hand would have caused Dempsey problems (although, like Tunney did and Jeffries would have, Liston would have had a hard time planting that left on Dempsey's quick-moving chin). Still, Liston was not the hardest guy in the world to hit, a big minus against Dempsey. And, extenuating circumstances or not, one has to question Liston's heart based on his two pathetic surrenders to Ali (remember, unlike the other fighters on this list, Liston never won a tough fight in his whole career). In the final analysis, I see Dempsey as simply too tough and too determined to lose to Liston; I see him getting by the jab and out-quicking Liston on the inside until Sonny either burned out or quit.

Result: Dempsey KO10 over Liston

Dempsey vs Ali: Styles make fights, at least when the combatants are in the same "class", to borrow a term from horse racing, and Dempsey had the style to give Ali trouble. Dempsey would have fought Ali the same way Frazier did, hustling forward, keeping the pressure on, throwing a lot of left hooks, which Ali didn't like. Ali did not really have the punch to keep Dempsey honest, and so would have had difficulty the whole fight. Also, I keep thinking of the trouble Ali had with Henry Cooper. Dempsey was the same size as Cooper and had the same left hook. But, Dempsey had a right hand to go along with it, was much more durable, and, above all, didn't cut. Ultimately, I think
Ali's lightning hands and iron chin would have earned him a close decision, but, as with the Louis fight, I wouldn't put any money on it.

Result: Ali W15 over Dempsey

Dempsey vs Frazier: Frazier was similar to Marciano in terms of style and ability. Frazier was 20 lbs. heavier and so probably stronger, and didn't cut. Marciano was probably a little better boxer and a better 2-handed puncher (Rocky's left hook being superior to Joe's right cross). Both had solid chins (you can't fault Frazier for falling to Foreman, a puncher far, far beyond the magnitude of anyone Marciano ever fought), and both had wonderful endurance. Against Dempsey, Frazier, like Marciano, would have found himself in a heated brawl early on in which he would have been unable either to land cleanly on his speedy attacker or to avoid getting hit himself. Tough as Frazier was, he could only have hung in there so long.

Result: Dempsey TKO7 over Frazier

Dempsey vs Foreman: Until the last couple of years, Foreman was severely underrated by boxing experts (he was a great fighter as well as a great puncher), and he surely had the potential to simply bomb Dempsey, or anyone else (except maybe Ali), out of there early on any given night. More often than not, though, I think Dempsey would have had the sense and skill to stay out of Foreman's way for the 6-7 rounds it would have taken him to wind down, which Frazier did not have the versatility to do. After Foreman tired, Dempsey would have overcome him.

Result: Dempsey KO7 over Foreman

Dempsey vs Holmes: I think Dempsey-Holmes would have been fairly one-sided. Though he had fast hands and elegant boxing skills, Holmes was not exceptionally quick afoot and did not possess a big punch. Thus, he had trouble with aggressive fighters who put the pressure on him, like Ken Norton, Mike Weaver, and Earnie Shavers. Fortunately for Holmes, those guys all had glass jaws and (except for Norton) no stamina, and so ultimately wilted beneath Holmes' steady barrage. No one ever accused Dempsey of lacking either chin or stamina, however, and he would not have wilted. Moreover, Dempsey could lay on more pressure than all three of those guys put together. Further, he was harder to hit than any of them (Tunney, a quicker and more accurate puncher than Holmes, once said he was only able to catch Dempsey "cleanly" a couple times in their fights), so Dempsey would have paid a lower price for his aggression than those guys did. Finally, don't forget Holmes's career-long tendency to get hit by right hands over his left jab (Kevin Isaac, Renaldo Snipes, Duane Bobick (in the Olympic Trials), Shavers, Tyson), which punch was a specialty of Dempsey's. Any way you look at, Holmes would have been in trouble, though his great chin and heart would have kept him on his feet for a while.

Result: Dempsey KO11 over Holmes

Dempsey vs Tyson: As one writer recently put it, Dempsey was everything Tyson wanted to be, but never could be. At his best, Tyson was hard to hit cleanly, had fast hands, and, with either one of them, could hit harder than almost anyone who ever lived. But, he had some weaknesses. His biggest was his heart -- he got discouraged when the other guy fought back. In addition, his stamina was suspect, as was his ability (and willingness) to absorb punishment over the long-haul. Buster Douglas did not lay enough on him to have phased Frazier, Holmes, or Dempsey, but Tyson crumbled. Holyfield couldn't drop over-weight and over-the-hill light-heavyweight Bobby Czyz, but he dropped Tyson. Finally, Tyson seems unable to function in the face of aggressive counter-punching; he basically freezes until the other guy is finished. Tyson's loss to glass-jawed second-rater Douglas, when in shape (220 lbs. even) and in his prime (25 years old), demonstrates
conclusively that he is not of the same caliber as the others herein discussed. He was a great puncher, but not a truly great fighter; highly overrated.

Tyson would have come roaring out of his corner, missed with a few bombs, gotten hit back a few times (far harder than he ever expected), and then reverted into the tentative, one-punch-at-a-time fighter that he became against Douglas and Holyfield. Dempsey -- more than tough enough (despite his 30 pound disadvantage on the scales) to handle the occasional bomb with which Tyson might clip him -- would have spent the fight dashing in and out, mixing his punches to the head and body, and getting bolder and bolder as Tyson got more and more timid. Soon, Tyson would have become tired, dizzy, and discouraged. In short, out-toughed and out-classed.

Result: Dempsey KO6 over Tyson

Dempsey vs Holyfield: Yes, Holyfield surprised everyone by dismantling Tyson, and, yes, we all like and root for him, but I just don't see him as belonging among the true elite of the division. The real surprise of Holyfield-Tyson was the evidence that the Douglas fight was no fluke, and that Tyson has been vastly overrated for most of his career. A victory over Tyson, without more, does not qualify a fighter for ranking among the top 10 of all-time (see Douglas). Nor does the rest of Holyfield's career justify that lofty position. Remember, he had a great deal of trouble with Foreman and Holmes when each was well into his 40s. Looking at those fights, one has to figure that both those guys would've handed Holyfield his head when in their primes. Remember also the trouble he had against Bert Cooper, Michael Moorer, and Vaughn Bean, none of whom exactly qualifies as a hall-of-famer. Holyfield hits hard, but he is not a devastating puncher; he's quick, but I've seen quicker; he's a good boxer when he's paying attention, but he gets careless and can be hit; he's well-conditioned, generally, but I've seen him fade in the later rounds of a number of fights; he has heart, but I've seen him wobbled by mediocre punchers. In short, he is a first-rate heavyweight who stopped just a shade short of true greatness.

Dempsey did everything better than Holyfield does, and would have stopped him within 5 rounds. Unlike Tyson, Dempsey wouldn't choke or become unglued at the first sign of resistance.

Result: Dempsey KO5 over Holyfield

In the final analysis, Dempsey belongs in the very highest echelon of heavyweight greats; a champion among champions. For the record, I rate the all-time heavyweights as follows:

1- Muhammad Ali
2- Jack Dempsey
3- Joe Louis
4- George Foreman
5- Sonny Liston
6- Joe Frazier
7- Gene Tunney
8- Larry Holmes
9- Jack Johnson
10- Rocky Marciano
11- Jim Jeffries
12- Riddick Bowe
13- Evander Holyfield
14- Mike Tyson
15- Sam Langford

Bruno On Boxing

By Joe Bruno

Former vice president of the Boxing Writers Association and the International Boxing Writers Association

    Looks like "Lord " Larry Hazzard, chairman of the New Jersey Athletic Commission, has stepped in it again -- bigtime.  Hazzard, know for his tight-fisted and ethically-challenged control of New Jersey boxing, is on the bad end of a new lawsuit filed by two irate woman boxing officials.

    World renowned boxing judge, Lynne Carter, and referee Velma Garrick have filed suit against Hazzard and the State Athletic Control Board, charging that the commissioner and the agency violated the women's civil rights when they were refused licenses to work in the state. Carter became the first African-American female boxing judge in New Jersey in 1982.  Garrick has refereed more than 50 professional matches.

    The woman filed the lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Trenton because they believe Hazzard showed gender bias when he refused to renew Carter's license for 1997, and would not grant Garrick a license in 1996. The suit asks for damages in excess of $75,000. Neither woman was given a hearing.

     "Given my track record, I can only believe that this happened because I'm a woman," said Carter, who has scored several world-title bouts for the World Boxing Association, the World Boxing Union, and the International Boxing Federation. Garrick, who has endured 10 surgical procedures to reconstruct the left side of her body, which was damaged by a collision at home plate during  softball game in 1991, concurred.   

     "I think that, basically, it was rejection on gender because I'm a small female, and plus I'm handicapped," said Garrick.

To all this the cantankerous Hazzard has issued a firm and final, "No comment."

    Documents obtained by The Philadelphia Inquirer show that in June 1997, a New Jersey deputy attorney general, Charles F. Kimmel, wrote a letter to M. Mark Mendel, then Carter's attorney, explaining that referees and judges were "at-will" employees of the control board and therefore could be denied licenses without a hearing. The suit further charges that both women suffered substantial financial losses because of the volume of fights that are held in Atlantic City as compared with other East Coast venues. It also contends that their reputations as boxing officials were damaged.

    Apparently, Lord Larry is the only one who think these two women are incompetent boxing officials, since both woman are licensed to work in nearby Pennsylvania.

    "I think both women are very competent at what they do," Pennsylvania athletic commissioner George Bochetto said. He also vouched for the character of the women. "That's why we license them here in Pennsylvania."

    Hell hath no fury like a women (two women) scorned. Let's see how Lord Larry weasels his way out of this one.
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Instead of denying two women boxing licenses in New Jersey, Lord Larry should check the integrity, and competency of his male boxing judges instead.  In a fight that never belong on pay-per-view in the first place, heavyweight Frans Botha of South Africa was robbed of another chance at Mike Tyson, when he was awarded a disgraceful draw against the amateurish Shannon
Briggs on August 7th in Atlantic City.

One judge scored the fight  95-92 in favor of Botha (my scorecard exactly.) The other two blind-mice, borderline-crooks scored the fight 94-94 -- a draw. Even more shocking was the fact that Botha had to win the tenth and final round by a 10-8 margin to get the bloody draw in the first place.    

Before the scoring was announced, Bobby Czyz told Ferdie "The Fright Doctor" Pacheco, "Even though I though Botha won easily, knowing the scoring in New Jersey, I see a draw coming."

Freddie-- er-- Ferdie countered with, "There's no way anyone who saw this fight thinks Botha didn't win."

Wrong again Ferdie.

"I thought I won the fight," said Botha. "But when it came to New Jersey,  I figured I had to knock him out to win. The power that his manager has with the New Jersey Commission made it obvious to me I wasn't going to win a decision."

 Briggs told TV commentator Jim Gray after the fight that he thought he had definitely earned a draw. Gray quipped back, "That's the first time in my life that I ever heard a fighter say he thought he had tied."

Right after the fight, the reason for the two bad judges scoring this fight they way they did immediately became evident.

Briggs' manager Marc Roberts, real palsy with Lord Larry, admitted to reporters that negotiations for a Briggs-Tyson bout, possibly for Dec. 11, were already underway. A loss to Botha would have denied Briggs a chance at Tyson, and a career-high payday. 

Think Lord Larry and his judges were made aware of the big-bucks negotiations by Roberts before the Botha fight?

Do bears do do-do in the woods?

The Tyson connection was also broached by Briggs when he told Gray, "I heard he (Tyson) called here during the fight and said, `Let's get it on.' It would be great to have that fight. I'm excited."

Tyson-Briggs?   Fuhgeddaboudit!

Who, outside of the denizens of Brownsville, Brooklyn, cares about this stupid fight anyway? Still, the vultures who run boxing plan to put this farce on pay-per-view at $39.95 a pop.

And anyone who shells out their hard-earned cash for this rubbish deserves to get beat bigtime.
Don't hide people. You know who you are.
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    Apparently,  one "President" with a sexual problem in our fine country is  not enough.

Ikemefula "Ike" Ibeabuchi, 26, nicknamed "The President", was arrested on July 22nd in Las Vegas. According to  Lt. Tom Monahan of the Metropolitan Police Department's Sexual Assault Detail. "President Ike" was jailed on charges of sexual assault and battery with intent to commit sexual assault. Monahan also confirmed that in light of the arrest, the Clark County district attorney is taking a second look at a sexual assault accusation made against Ibeabuchi in December. Though Las Vegas police filed a report on the allegations, Monahan said, the district attorney decided there was
insufficient evidence to charge the boxer.

 
"The DA's office is now going to review that case," Monahan said. The "President's"  problems stem from an incident reported at The Mirage, where police were called in response to a commotion in Ibeabuchi's suite.  When police arrived, the 6-foot-2, 240-pound boxer had barricaded himself in the bathroom. Officers had to direct pepper spray under the door to make him surrender.

 
A 21-year-old woman who works for an out call service told police she was raped by Ibeabuchi after being called to his suite. (There was no mention of the desecration of any cigar) "This was not like a case of a dispute over money, or not a matter of services rendered and payment expected," said Monahan. "We believe this was forcible rape."

 
This was not the first time "President Ike' has been in trouble with the law.   Ibeabuchi was jailed in Texas for a little more than three months in January 1998. He pleaded guilty to false imprisonment charges related to an August 1997 incident in which he drove a car containing a 12-year old boy
straight into a wall.  "President Ike" escaped unharmed, but a criminal complaint stated that the boy "will never walk normally again."

  Upon Ibeabuchi's release from jail in April 1998, Ike's mother said he would be treated for depression. Mom mentioned nothing about her little Ikela's roaming hand problems with women.
Ibeabuchi's promoter, Cedric Kushner, had been quoted as saying his boxer suffers from manic depression. Kushner, probably a little depressed himself,  said after "President Ike's" latest arrest, "I don't know what to say other than I hope the charges are incorrect."    

No kidding.
If you really think about it, this whole incident could be transformed by  ingenious boxing entrepreneurs (Don King?) into a boxing promotion to end all boxing promotions. They could match a convicted rapist, Mike Tyson, against an alleged rapist, "President Ike," in a steel cage match to the death somewhere near the North Pole.

No rules. No referee. No ringside doctor. No TV. And most importantly, no return ticket for the winner.

Let these two deviants do what they will to each other, and never let them darken our doorways again.

I've heard worse ideas.
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This is getting monotonous.
News Flash!!! Convicted rapist returns to the ring.
    Tony Ayala Jr., one of the most despicable human beings I've ever met in the sport of boxing (and that's saying something) made his return to the ring on August 20th after spending sixteen years in the slammer for his second rape conviction.

    "El Torito" (Baby Bull) stopped an outclassed Manuel Esparaza in the third round of their scheduled middleweight bout.  Ayala showed some of the punching power that made him one of the feared fighters of the early 1980s before he was sentenced to 35 years in prison for the rape of a New Jersey woman. Ayala also showed plenty of ring rust against an opponent who lost his last fight on a sixth-round knockout, and would have had no business being in the ring with an Ayala in his prime.

    "It felt like the old days,'' Ayala said. "I can't tell you how much this meant to me."

    I hope he meant "the old days" boxing in the ring, and not when he was terrorizing helpless young women.

    Any sportswriter who spent any time around Tony Ayala Sr. and his brood in the early 1980's felt like he was hanging with Ma Barker and her gang.

    Tony's old man, Tony Sr., was hardly a positive role model for his troubled sons. Oldest son Mike, a world ranked featherweight, battled drugs throughout his career. Mike also had constant battles with his father, and sometimes it got downright nasty.

    In 1980, Mike won a decision at the Felt Forum in Madison Square Garden. When I interviewed Mike after the fight, he asked me if I was going to Totowa's Ice World the following week to see his younger brother Tony fight the main event. I said yes, and Mike told me, "When you see my father tell him I said hi, and tell him I'm sorry."

    A few days later, Tony Jr. won on an easy first round knockout over some Joe Schmoe for the Duvas out in Totowa, New Jersey. I did a quick interview with father and son, then I turned to Tony Sr. and told him what Mike had said.

    Tony Sr. turned on me with angry eyes and screamed, "Tell my son Mike he can suck my pr......!" Tony Jr. was standing right next to good old dad as the father continued his profane verbal assault against older brother Mike.

    Tony Jr. was first arrested for sexual assault when he was only fifteen years old. He attacked a young girl in the ladies room of a drive-in theater in his hometown of San Antonio, Texas. Ayala raped the poor girl, then roughed her up a bit. But because Tony Jr.  was good with his fists, and had a promising pro boxing career, he somehow got off with only a slight slap on
the wrists. No prison time included.

   Tony Jr. signed with the Duvas, and by 1982, he was one of the top junior middleweights in the world.  This teenage snake was so vicious in the ring, he once spat at a fallen opponent named Robbie Epps.

    Then Tony Jr. decided it was time to get down and dirty again.

      Ayala was arrested for raping a young woman in her own bedroom in rural New Jersey. No slap on the wrist for El Torito ( El Disgratciata) this time. Thirty five years to life. But with the new math applied to his sentence, that somehow translated out to be only sixteen years in the can.

    Ayala Jr. did his time, and like any citizen of the good old US of A, he is entitled to resume his wretched life outside prison walls.

    Still, there's something obscene about this two-time rapist making $200,000 in his first fight in almost two decades against such inferior competition. And on pay-per-view to boot.

    What disturbs me most is that not one woman's rights group picketed Ayala's first fight back, like they did at Tyson's when he fought for the first time after his rape conviction. In fact, before Ayala's fight, two middle-aged woman carried a large banner around the ring that read "Hispanic Women For Better Justice support Torito."  These misguided morons even threw a brunch in Ayala's honor the following day on the campus of San Antonio State College.

    Better justice for whom?  Certainly not for the hundreds of women who are raped and beaten annually in this country. 

     This sickening display of misplaced loyalties makes me want to puke. Sorry, but I just can't help but wanting only bad things to happen to Tony Ayala Jr. in the future. Maybe soon El Torito (El Disgratciata) will be on the short end of someone else's fiendish fury.

    Then justice might finally be served.
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    As an addendum to the Ayala story, one of Ayala's new advisors is the infamous, roguish, never to be trusted, but hard to dislike Don Elbaum. Elbaum has the reputation that if you shake hands with him, you better count your fingers quick.

    One of the best Elbaum stories concerns a benefit dinner he once threw for the legendary Sugar Ray Robinson. At the night's end, Elbaum stood at the podium, and with tears in his eyes he presented Sugar Ray with a set of old boxing gloves, ones Elbaum claimed were the very gloves Sugar Ray wore in this first pro fight four decades earlier. Sugar Ray graciously accepted the gloves, then suddenly noticed they were two right gloves.

    Elbaum just smiled and shrugged his shoulders.

    Typical.

GERRY COONEY FIGHTS AGAIN!!
By Dave Iamele


Attention boxing fans!  Gerry Cooney is back and he’s taking on his toughest test ever.  That’s right, tougher than Jimmy Young, Ron Lyle, Ken Norton, Larry Holmes, Michael Spinks, and George Foreman (all former Cooney opponents).  Hell, this may be tougher than all of these guys put together.

So what am I talking about?  Has Gerry joined the ever growing list of ex-ex-heavyweights and returned to the ring for another comeback?  No way, don’t count on ever seeing that again.  Instead, he has focused his attention on trying to eliminate the image and reality of the punchy, broke, ex-palooka that can’t hold down a job and may or may not even have a home.

Now you know why I say this task appears harder than battling with Foreman or Holmes!   The image of the down on his luck former ‘coulda been a contender’ pug has been around for nearly as long as the fight racket itself.  Cooney thinks it’s about time that changed.  That’s why he is the chairman of  F.I.S.T. (Fighters Institute for Support & Training) an organization that helps ex-fighters get on  with their lives after the final bell has rung on their boxing careers.

I spoke to Gerry on one of his many visits to the International Boxing Hall of Fame in Canastota, New York about his career in the ring, being chairman of F.I.S.T., his new cigar hobby, and other topics:

DI: “Tell me about your pro boxing career.”

GC: “I had my first bout on Valentine’s Day 1977.  I knocked out Bill Jackson in the first round.  Basically, I fought in the 70’s & 80’s.   In ‘82, I fought Larry Holmes for the heavyweight championship of the world.   Prior to that, I had knocked out Jimmy Young, Ron Lyle, Kenny Norton which let up to my championship bout in Las Vegas in June of ‘82.”

DI: “What kind of amateur background did you have?

GC: “I had a record of 55 - 3.  I lost three fights.  I was a two time Golden Gloves champion, and I fought on the U.S. team against Russia and traveled to Europe.  I made it to the finals in 1976 by knocking out the 3rd ranked heavyweight, a Russian, in Madison Square Gardens.  But my father was very sick at the time, and I chose not to go.”

DI: “As a pro, everything seemed to come together for you in the early 80’s when you ko’d Jimmy Young, Ron Lyle & Ken Norton all within 4 rounds.

GC: “Boxing is a sport you always want to take as far as you can go.  I didn’t plan to be a boxer in the beginning but as my career progressed, it began to look more appealing.  I had my first major nationally televised fight in Atlantic City against Jimmy Young, who had just racked up nine wins, and I knocked him out in 4 rounds.   Stopped him on a bad cut.  Which got me a fight with Ron Lyle in Nassau Coliseum, and I knocked him out in one round, and that got me a bout with Kenny Norton.   Norton had just beat Tex Cobb in a “fight-off”.  The winner of Norton/Cobb was to fight me and the winner of that bout would fight Holmes for the championship.  So in 1981, I fought Ken Norton in Madison Square Garden and knocked him out in 54 seconds of the first round.”

DI: “You had a lot of short nights, didn’t you?”

GC: “I did.  You know, I was lucky.  I was always a good puncher, and I liked to have my opponent feel my power, and you could kind of see the fight draining out of him as you focused on the bout.”

DI: “What were your feelings leading into your championship shot against Holmes?   There was a lot of pressure on you to do well.   There was a lot of talk about the racial angle with you being portrayed as the ‘great white hope’ ...”

GC: “It was like I wanted to go as far as I could and fighting for the heavyweight championship of the world was the greatest.  Looking back, I wish I’d have had more experience going into that bout.  Leading up to it, I was a good observer of boxing over the years so I got a chance to see a lot of the hoopla that went on before the big bouts, and I really kind of tried to keep myself shielded from it somewhat.  It was overwhelming, there’s no doubt about it.  I mean there were cameras there from all over the world.  It was a heavyweight championship bout, so you know?   I did the best that I could.  I hung around with some good, close friends that I grew up with.  I trained hard.  Larry and I didn’t really get along too well at the time because the promoters were trying to create controversy to increase interest in the bout.  I think this fight was the single largest gate before pay-per-view.  At that time, there was only close-circuit.  So we had a great fight - I mean, he didn’t like me, and I didn’t like him and it was a natural.   We found out later on that it didn’t have anything to do with him and me, it was just the people trying to make money that created this atmosphere around us of dislike.”

DI: “With Larry, it was totally a money issue, wasn’t it?  He was upset that you, as a white challenger, were making the same money as him, the black champion.”

GC: “Well, you know, I think it was the first time that a challenger got purse-parity with the champion.  He had some legitimate beefs.  I mean, he worked with Ali for years, he was a great fighter and then when Ali kind of slipped away, and he came into the picture, he thought he would get all of the attention.   But Ali was Ali, very charismatic and not that Larry Holmes is not, they were just two different guys.   He was very bitter about that, I think, and I can understand that.  So we fought and today we’re two different guys and we understand that it was just a game and that it had nothing to do with him and I.  I’ll tell you something that’s kind of nice that a lot of people don’t know.  When we came to the center of the ring, he kind of tapped me on the glove and said, ‘lets have a good fight’ and that’s a true sportsman.  That’s what Larry Holmes is, a true sportsman and a great champion.”

DI: “Do you think it’s possible for a white man to ever hold the world heavyweight championship again?”

GC: “I’m sure there are great fighters out there. . . I think there are a lot more opportunities for the white athlete so he doesn’t get pulled into boxing so much, but I’m sure there will be.  I’m sure there will be a guy who comes along.  Times have changed and boxing is a very interesting and powerful sport and in some place, some town in the United States, there’s someone with the talent who will want to be a fighter and will propel himself to be the greatest.”

DI: “After the Holmes bout, you were out of the ring for a couple of years. . .”

GC: “I went through a lot, and I was very depressed, and I felt like I was a failure.   I just felt. . . not very good about myself, and I kind of drifted around for a while and picked up the bottle a little and got off-track for a couple years.  I was lost, you know?  I didn’t know who to trust and who not to trust and there were people who were telling me to not trust this guy and that guy.  I found out later, they were the very people I never should’ve trusted.  But I lost my father when I was 18 years old, and we had a sort of tumultuous relationship anyway, and I hooked up with these guys that were getting into the boxing business and they steered me in the wrong direction, and I kinda got lost for a while.  They tried to get me to comeback. . . comeback (to box again), but I really wasn’t feeling very good.  I’d get drinking and drinking, and I’d get frightened, and I’d take another fight.   Not realizing that every time I did that, a little  piece of me slipped way, and I couldn’t get back on track.  I mean, the difference between a world class fighter and a club fighter is split-second timing, you know, and how you respond.   When you’re drinking and not taking care of yourself, smokin’ - you kind of lose that edge. . . but as a human being, you want to believe. . . I mean I’m 42 now, and I still want to believe that I could do what I could do at 25.  But you can’t.   That was going on at the time.  Then I’d break away again and try to figure out what to do with my life and where to go, what to do.  Then when I couldn’t figure that out, I’d take another fight.  Slowly but surely, my ability was eroding and there came that day that. . . very day that I stepped into the ring with Michael Spinks very, very mixed up and not believing the fight was ever gonna take place and not taking care of myself and the fight showed it that night, that I really kinda fell apart.  At that point, it helped me to turn a page in my life and realize that I gotta find some different choices.  That’s part of the reason, what I’ve been through myself and what I’ve seen with other fighters, other sparring partners, who didn’t know where to go, who to go to, what questions to ask.  I started thinking to myself about my foundation, the F.I.S.T. Foundation - Fighters Institute for Support and Training - to help the fighters have a sort of safety net.  A place where he can go to find out answers to the questions that he has and to find out where his strengths lie, and what is it that he really wants to do with the rest of his life instead of roaming around looking for handouts.  You know, make him proud, make him skilled with job training and job placement, so he can be proud that he was a fighter, not feel shame because after all he did, he has nothing to show for it.  I want to help fighters in need.  I needed help myself at one time.  You know, a few years ago, Mike Tyson was fined 3 million dollars.  You know where that money went?  It was used to pave the streets in Las Vegas!  It should have been put back into boxing to help the fighters out.  I mean, that’s it, that’s what F.I.S.T. is all about!!”

DI: “I imagine you are not a fan of the Legends of Boxing tour with the over 40 fighters boxing against each other?”

GC: “For golf, it’s great to have a seniors tour because there’s no physical abuse you’re taking.  Boxing . . . you know a human being isn’t like a car or a machine, when your parts wear out, you can’t replace them.  In fighting, you catch shots, which are much more serious in the later stages of your life.   So I’m really not feeling too keen on it.   But I’m a very big Larry Holmes fan, but I hope these guys can find other areas to go where they can feel just as proud.  When you’re an athlete, the roar of the crowd is a very powerful thing.  Walking out of the dressing room in 1982, fighting Larry Holmes, and hearing the 32,000 people in Caesars Palace was very powerful.  The sound and the vibration, the electricity in the air!  It’s hard to get that after boxing.  I mean after you’re done with boxing, how do you replace that?  You have to learn other things, other skills.  Life is like, there’s six slices to the pie, but while you’re a fighter, you are only concentrating on one slice.  You have to develop and think about those other five slices.  Sometimes, people need help with this process, and that’s where the F.I.S.T. Foundation comes in.  I feel a certain sadness about boxing because everyone loves the fighter but when Gerry Cooney’s finished fighting, they’re developing another young Gerry Cooney and so the senior Gerry Cooney gets forgotten about and he hasn’t developed any areas of his life except boxing.  I hope this seniors thing doesn’t stay around too long ‘cause guys are really gonna get hurt now.”

DI: “So if they approached you and said, ‘Gerry, we’re gonna give you a million dollars for a rematch with Holmes you’d. . .”

GC: “Oh they have, they have!  I told ‘em, ‘listen, pal, I can’t even fight with my wife (laughs).  You know I made some mistakes, and I screwed up and it was because I had a lot of questions and couldn’t find the answers.  I didn’t even know the right questions!”

DI: “You think ‘what if?’, at all?”

GC: “Oh no doubt!  The one fight that I feel a lot of disappointment  and shame about is the Michael Spinks bout. Because he was nothing more than a blown up light-heavyweight and he did not. . . If he had fought the Gerry Cooney that fought Ken Norton, Spinks wouldn’t have lasted a round with me.  But because I was so disillusioned and off track, I really showed it that fight so I feel a lot of shame about that fight.  In 1990, I fought Foreman, I kinda got my life in order, I got away from the booze and, in fact, I was promoting fights.  I did some Camacho bouts, I co-promoted Duran/Leonard III, I promoted some of Foreman’s fights.  One day, he came up to me and said, ‘hey, how about a fight with me?”, and I thought, nah, I don’t like to fight!  But then I got thinking to myself about all those years I was abusing myself, drinking and partying not taking care of myself.  I thought now that I’m straightened up, I think I can take Foreman, so I took the fight.  So I got myself in shape, and going into the fight, I thought, ‘I’m gonna take him out.’ I almost did but that’s what hurt me.  Once I hurt him, I thought I could take him.  Gil Clancy was telling me to move around for four or five rounds but my Irish took over, and I got caught with a shot.  My timing was off, but that helped me to realize that now I have to move on.  I’m really proud that even though I lost, I answered the questions inside myself.  I got myself in shape, took care of myself, I was excited about the fight. . . and I didn’t win.  But that helped me to close the door on that part of my life.”

GC: “With F.I.S.T., we have programs to help:  aptitude tests to find out where a guys strengths lie, apprenticeship programs, counseling for alcohol or drugs, or whatever.  Just help a guy get on track so he can take care of himself and feel good about himself.  I want to help these guys to help themselves.  I see fighters come here (to the Hall of Fame) who feel ashamed.  They were great fighters but are ashamed because they aren’t doing anything with their lives, no money left.   They’re kind of hanging around looking and looking, but you can’t look, you gotta do. . .”

DI: “How can interested people find out about this organization?”

GC: “This is a tax-exempt program, and we can be reached at:  P.O. Box 40, Fanwood, NJ  07023.  Phone number, 1-800-419-9799, toll free.  We need contributions to help get and keep these programs up and running. We have a wide assortment of people working with us - doctors, lawyers, accountants, whatever. . . that are committed to helping these ex-fighters.  We want to let these guys know that we care about them, that there is help out there.  We have a guy who’s 8 - 28, who’s still fighting.  He’s got a wife and two kids.  We want to help him get out of boxing.  I wanted someone there for me. . . so I wanna be there to help these guys.  So many of today’s great stars want to do something to help out ex-fighters.  Guys like Oscar DeLaHoya  and Shane Mosley want to help but don’t know how or where to go.  Now there’s a place to go, the F.I.S.T. Foundation.”

DI: “How did you get from the point of needing help to being in a position to help others?”

GC: One day, I woke up and I thought, ‘My God!  Who’s in control of my life and what’s going on?’, and I thought to myself, ‘I’ve got to stop this!’  I woke up the very next day, hungover, feeling the same way and it scared me.  I spoke with some people and I realized I didn’t like how I was feeling, didn’t like where I was going so I . . . I think with most people you have to bottom out and you have to surrender and realize that you gotta reach out.  I think everyone comes to that point sometime and says, ‘God, please help me’, and I did that, and I started to move forward.”

DI: “Changing the tone from all this heavy stuff. . . tell me a little bit about how you have become a cigar smoker.  We have both been enjoying cigars as we’ve been talking.  What got you started?”

GC: “It’s great stuff, baby, I gotta tell ya!  My friend and Vice Chairman, Norman Weiss and I went to a meeting at a cigar club, a luncheon, and I was offered a Cuban, and I thought ‘My God, I don’t want to smoke.  I’ve never smoked in my life. Nah, I can’t stand it!’  My father used to smoke.   After dinner, the owner of the cigar club came up and offered me a cigar, so I thought, ‘o.k., let me try it’, and I thought, ‘Wow!  where have I been and what have I been doing?’  It’s an enjoyable thing.  Everyone has their vices and their habits.  I don’t inhale but I worry a little bit about the health aspects of it.  But I only smoke a cigar a day or every couple of days, and I enjoy it, and it calms me.  I’m really learning a lot about different tobaccos and different cigars and it’s a lot of fun!”

DI: “What are some of your favorite cigars?”

GC: “Well, I’ll tell you, I really enjoy these Lars Tetens we’re smoking.   They’re great cigars.  There’s a lot of them. . . Cohiba, Romeo & Julieta, Montecristo, . . .there’s a lot of nice cigars!  I don’t know too much about it yet, I’m still learning, but it’s a fun time.  I gotta nice box I keep my cigars in.  I got a nice lighter.  A great cutter today from my buddy, Norm.”

DI: “Smoking cigars is very relaxing, isn’t it?”

GC: “Yeah!  I got a nice little place in my back yard with beautiful trees and at night time, I turn the lights on and I sit back and smoke a cigar with my wife and have a few laughs.  I just sit back and enjoy it, you know?”

DI: “There’s a real camaraderie with cigar smokers. . .”

GC: “Where are these (Lars Tetens) made, Florida?”

DI: “Actually, New York.”

GC: “What kind of tobacco is this?”

DI: “Well, only Lars knows for sure!”

GC: “Did you buy these around here?”

DI: “No, Lars is a big boxing fan and every year when I come here to Canastota for the Boxing Hall of Fame Induction,  he gives me whatever I want for the boxers and fans to enjoy. . . whatever. . . 100, 200, 1000. . .”

GC: “Why didn’t you tell him to give you 150 for me (laughs).”


I’d like to thank Gerry for his time and for the efforts he’s putting forth to help fighters and former fighters out.  The F.I.S.T. is just getting started and, like all non-profit organizations, needs financial support.  If you o